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Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

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donnie feelin the heat today. Lawyer airs new "President can't obstruct justice" argument, every friend he has in the media business and several CEO's he's been in bed with announce folly.

Man. I'd hate to be him right now.
 
"Does it seem like a bigger deal when it's said "A private citizen tasked his employee to conduct diplomatic affairs instead of the POTUSA"? "

@Harambe, if you really wanted to be accurate, you would realize the term private citizen is not proper in this case. A non-biased take would say, "The President-elect tasked his NSA to be to conduct diplomatic affairs in preparation of his role as President in the future."

That, would be accurate.
 
Ridiculous. Every president elect does this. It would almost be impossible not to. But let's all go crazy about it in this instance because we hate Donald.

Take over before the deadline?

Read; not be involved. Not sit in on meetings. Completely take over, AND WITHOUT LETTING THE SITTING ADMINISTRATION know, or even seek approval?

If you're gonna go with that, I expect some serious linked evidence. Cuz it doesn't exist.
 
"Does it seem like a bigger deal when it's said "A private citizen tasked his employee to conduct diplomatic affairs instead of the POTUSA"? "

@Harambe, if you really wanted to be accurate, you would realize the term private citizen is not proper in this case. A non-biased take would say, "The President-elect tasked his NSA to be to conduct diplomatic affairs in preparation of his role as President in the future."

That, would be accurate.
 
"Does it seem like a bigger deal when it's said "A private citizen tasked his employee to conduct diplomatic affairs instead of the POTUSA"? "

@Harambe, if you really wanted to be accurate, you would realize the term private citizen is not proper in this case. A non-biased take would say, "The President-elect tasked his NSA to be to conduct diplomatic affairs in preparation of his role as President in the future."

That, would be accurate.

Was he in office? Did he have the job of the POTUS? No.

Do I have to use the S word?
 
Was he merely a private citizen? No.
Yes. Until taking office, he doesn't have that job, and can not speak for the nation. There's a reason we have a president and a vice president, not two co-presidents.
Did I say he was in office? No.
Did I say he had the job of the POTUS? No.
Good.
Was there anything inaccurate about what I said? No.

Yes. He IS a private citizen until he is sworn in. That's where the line is drawn, and has always been drawn.
 
Whether you know it or not, what you're advocating here, or at very least feigning ignorance to, is the subversion of the existing administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion

Hell mang... just read the first couple lines and you'll get it.

Subversion (Latin subvertere: overthrow) refers to a process by which the values and principles of a system in place are contradicted or reversed, an attempt to transform the established social order and its structures of power, authority, hierarchy, and norm (social). Subversion can be described as an attack on the public morale and, "the will to resist intervention are the products of combined political and social or class loyalties which are usually attached to national symbols. Following penetration, and parallel with the forced disintegration of political and social institutions of the state, these loyalties may be detached and transferred to the political or ideological cause of the aggressor"

donnie won the election, and he took office. As much as I don't like it, it's how it is. But he knew WHEN it was to be his time. And he opted to push it.
 
Yes. Until taking office, he doesn't have that job, and can not speak for the nation. There's a reason we have a president and a vice president, not two co-presidents.

Good.


Yes. He IS a private citizen until he is sworn in. That's where the line is drawn, and has always been drawn.

Oh. So he wasn't the President-elect at the time? Because the President-elect is not a private citizen. Acting like he/she is, is being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse.

Look, I was hoping we could use this to get rid of Trump, but it just isn't that big of a deal.

Obama gave quite a few speeches where he was titled as the President Elect, where he talked about how different he was going to run things. If you think he, or other president-elects, haven't done similar things to this, then you're crazy. It's basic common sense.
 
"Hey guys. I know these policies were just put in place. Don't worry too much about that, I don't plan on continuing that when I take office."

That ain't subversion.
 
"Hey guys. I know these policies were just put in place. Don't worry too much about that, I don't plan on continuing that when I take office."

That ain't subversion.

You don't know that. For all you know it was this:

Flynn: "Hey, Russia. I see there's some **** gone down"
Russia: "Yeah, man, we didn't do anything"
F: ".. you're sure?"
R: "Well... there were some things. But the public can't know"
F: "Cool. donnie'll be in office soon, and will be sure to not know what you did. 'member that time we did that one thing"
R: "Ya... 'I member! He pee'd on those chicks"
F: "That's gotta stay quiet too"
R: "Ok. Send us some uranium. Maybe summa that mustard gas you can't use?
F: "whut?"
R: "Well, we can buy an article in the times to tell every body about the peeing thing again"
F: "OK FINE. BYE"

But what was said wasn't really important. The fact that someone other than a current official, or at least someone given authority to discuss it, can have some serious repercussions. That's why it's not done, and never has been done, like what we're seeing here.
 
Well there's the fact that there is a specific law that forbids what Trump did. I mean, you can say it doesn't sound that bad, not too big a deal, but it's against the law. So the Trump campaign broke the law and then carried out a half-assed cover up. Mueller is investigating the campaign and is bringing charges when he discovers laws were broken. That's what's going on here. You can think it's a big deal or a "nothingburger" but ultimately the courts will answer that question.
 
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