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Before announcing his presidency, no one ever said the name Trump and Racism in the same sentence. How DARE you!
Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
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Before announcing his presidency, no one ever said the name Trump and Racism in the same sentence. How DARE you!
Alfalfa
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A lot of people think that way. Look at the comment section of any related news article. Even in a liberal leaning newspaper like NYT. A ton of comments like "so I should be okay with becoming a minority in my own country?".
The Thriller
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Anyone else notice how foul of a mood Donald has been since the midterms? Is he upset over trying so hard to win and losing? Or does he know something we don’t know, like impending Mueller indictments? Or a combination of both?
He seems to have lost his arrogant mojo and just seems grumpy. From avoiding the spotlight in Paris and pouting all weekend long to spouting off nonstop on twitter.
He seems to have lost his arrogant mojo and just seems grumpy. From avoiding the spotlight in Paris and pouting all weekend long to spouting off nonstop on twitter.
Red
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Conspiracy fruitcake says Mueller is going to indict him....
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/spe...pects-charged-mueller-probe/story?id=59148352
The former Infowars Washington bureau chief, who recently testified before a federal grand jury in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, tells ABC News that after two months of closed-door talks with investigators, the special counsel has now indicated he will be charged within a matter of days.
“I don’t know what they’re going to charge me with,” said Jerome Corsi in an interview with ABC News on Monday. “I think my only crime was that I support Donald Trump. That's my crime, and now I'm going to go to prison for the rest of my life for cooperating with them,” he later added.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/spe...pects-charged-mueller-probe/story?id=59148352
The former Infowars Washington bureau chief, who recently testified before a federal grand jury in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, tells ABC News that after two months of closed-door talks with investigators, the special counsel has now indicated he will be charged within a matter of days.
“I don’t know what they’re going to charge me with,” said Jerome Corsi in an interview with ABC News on Monday. “I think my only crime was that I support Donald Trump. That's my crime, and now I'm going to go to prison for the rest of my life for cooperating with them,” he later added.
Stars Fan
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He is feeling the pressure. With the House in less friendly hands, and no Nunes protection, he knows he will have to face the music. Firing Sessions tipped his hand, and the back lash caught him by surprise. He is acting like a guilty man.
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The Thriller
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I love all these losers who whine about Mueller’s perjury trap (Roger Stone in particular).
A perjury trap? Maybe try telling the truth instead? Seems like a pretty easy trap to avoid.
A perjury trap? Maybe try telling the truth instead? Seems like a pretty easy trap to avoid.
Red
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He may be nervous, but he's still ranking very high on the ignoramus scale. He is telling Florida officials to ignore military ballots. I thought he was elected president. He thought he ascended a throne as king.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5be9f43ae4b044bbb1a783bf/amp?ncid=NEWSSTAND0001
WASHINGTON ― Two days after skipping a visit to an American military cemetery near Paris because it was raining, President Donald Trump called for effectively disenfranchising overseas military members voting in Florida, raising further questions about the draft-evading president’s commitment to the armed services.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...a-ignore-military-ballots-happy-veterans-day/
Sen. Bernie Sanders: "Here is the simple truth. Donald Trump, like his friends in Russia, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, is an authoritarian leader who does not believe in democracy. The election officials in FL, GA and AZ must ignore the rantings of this president and COUNT EVERY VOTE.":
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5be97981e4b0e843889a3086/amp?ncid=NEWSSTAND0001
All this bodes so well for 2020:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/12/politics/donald-trump-2020-florida-nevada/index.html
"We already know that Trump is simply unwilling and unable to accept that he doesn't win -- or isn't the best or the most popular or whatever -- in every single situation. To do that, he often makes things up like that he had the largest inauguration crowd ever or that 3 million to 5 million illegal votes were cast in the 2016 election. Or that the 2018 election was "very close to complete victory" for him and Republicans.
Now, fast forward to November 8 (or so) 2020. (The election is on November 3 in 2020.) And imagine that Trump has lost the White House as a result of a close loss -- a 1 percentage point margin -- in Florida. Is there ANY circumstance you can imagine where Trump doesn't claim fraud? Doesn't insist that the election is being stolen from him -- and, by extension, his supporters? Doesn't refuse to concede the race and instead seeks to invalidate the result?"
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5be9f43ae4b044bbb1a783bf/amp?ncid=NEWSSTAND0001
WASHINGTON ― Two days after skipping a visit to an American military cemetery near Paris because it was raining, President Donald Trump called for effectively disenfranchising overseas military members voting in Florida, raising further questions about the draft-evading president’s commitment to the armed services.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...a-ignore-military-ballots-happy-veterans-day/
Sen. Bernie Sanders: "Here is the simple truth. Donald Trump, like his friends in Russia, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, is an authoritarian leader who does not believe in democracy. The election officials in FL, GA and AZ must ignore the rantings of this president and COUNT EVERY VOTE.":
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5be97981e4b0e843889a3086/amp?ncid=NEWSSTAND0001
All this bodes so well for 2020:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/12/politics/donald-trump-2020-florida-nevada/index.html
"We already know that Trump is simply unwilling and unable to accept that he doesn't win -- or isn't the best or the most popular or whatever -- in every single situation. To do that, he often makes things up like that he had the largest inauguration crowd ever or that 3 million to 5 million illegal votes were cast in the 2016 election. Or that the 2018 election was "very close to complete victory" for him and Republicans.
Now, fast forward to November 8 (or so) 2020. (The election is on November 3 in 2020.) And imagine that Trump has lost the White House as a result of a close loss -- a 1 percentage point margin -- in Florida. Is there ANY circumstance you can imagine where Trump doesn't claim fraud? Doesn't insist that the election is being stolen from him -- and, by extension, his supporters? Doesn't refuse to concede the race and instead seeks to invalidate the result?"
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Red
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It's right there in the 1st amendment, but very few people give a **** anymore. Disrespect, if not outright contempt, for the media, both print and broadcast, must play a role. A damn shame. Bring back civics class.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/14/media/trump-response-cnn-lawsuit/index.html
CNN)The White House asserts that it can pick and choose which journalists are given a permanent pass to cover it, according to a court filing by the Justice Department on Wednesday.
"The President and White House possess the same broad discretion to regulate access to the White House for journalists (and other members of the public) that they possess to select which journalists receive interviews, or which journalists they acknowledge at press conferences," lawyers say in the filing.
"If the press is not free to cover the news because its reporter is unjustly denied access, it is not free," former White House correspondent Sam Donaldson said in a court declaration supporting CNN on Tuesday. "And if denying access to a reporter an organization has chosen to represent it -- in effect asserting the president's right to take that choice away from a news organization and make it himself -- is permitted, then the press is not free."
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/14/media/trump-response-cnn-lawsuit/index.html
CNN)The White House asserts that it can pick and choose which journalists are given a permanent pass to cover it, according to a court filing by the Justice Department on Wednesday.
"The President and White House possess the same broad discretion to regulate access to the White House for journalists (and other members of the public) that they possess to select which journalists receive interviews, or which journalists they acknowledge at press conferences," lawyers say in the filing.
"If the press is not free to cover the news because its reporter is unjustly denied access, it is not free," former White House correspondent Sam Donaldson said in a court declaration supporting CNN on Tuesday. "And if denying access to a reporter an organization has chosen to represent it -- in effect asserting the president's right to take that choice away from a news organization and make it himself -- is permitted, then the press is not free."
I haven't had a good chance to get up to speed on Jerome Corsi or Roger Stone. I think I've caught one program of Infowars in the last two months. But they are predictable..... not on the sort of assumptions libs like the above ranters rely on, but on the character of Robert Mueller and Comey and others. Gosh, I've even missed almost every Hannity program, so what do I know.....
However, it is a mistake to ignore the fact that Rosenstein was thrown under the lib bus a while back when.... about the time he was reportedly thinking of bugging Trump to set him up on an Article 25 removal, he was looking dangerous to the coup because of his documented actions, prosecutable actions, in the campaign spying.
Trump dealt with it by waiting until the Kavenaugh appointment was confirmed..... and then waited some more.... still waiting. Everyone thought Trump would fire him, but no. He is valuable to Trump now, because he is compromised. Trump has decided he has the winning hand.
So no, you loonies. Trump is the cool hand. He has the winning cards. He really doesn't care about the House under D control anymore. In fact, he will even help Pelosi get the votes to be the majority leader...… better than the outright socialists anyway, but loony enough to win him the next election.
I mean, well, if citizen votes are counted and not just fake votes and illegal votes.....
However, it is a mistake to ignore the fact that Rosenstein was thrown under the lib bus a while back when.... about the time he was reportedly thinking of bugging Trump to set him up on an Article 25 removal, he was looking dangerous to the coup because of his documented actions, prosecutable actions, in the campaign spying.
Trump dealt with it by waiting until the Kavenaugh appointment was confirmed..... and then waited some more.... still waiting. Everyone thought Trump would fire him, but no. He is valuable to Trump now, because he is compromised. Trump has decided he has the winning hand.
So no, you loonies. Trump is the cool hand. He has the winning cards. He really doesn't care about the House under D control anymore. In fact, he will even help Pelosi get the votes to be the majority leader...… better than the outright socialists anyway, but loony enough to win him the next election.
I mean, well, if citizen votes are counted and not just fake votes and illegal votes.....
Red
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Anyone paying attention can't help but notice it is the president who has been coming unglued, a loony as it were, ever since the midterms. It helps to be grounded in reality when rendering analysis here.
It sounds like you may be falling for the president's baseless claims, including his claim people were disguising themselves and voting twice in Florida. Why should it be asking too much that the president actually be rational? If, as seems likely from the above quote, you simply believe this nonsense uncritically, well, I should think you could do better then this.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/11/bogus-voter-fraud-claims
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1991921002
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Red
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Boy, this is just not going to end well, whatever the ultimate outcome. Of course, if Mueller finds "no collusion", Trump will then praise the man on high....
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-probe-calls-it-total-mess-absolutely-n936526
President Donald Trump escalated his war on Robert Mueller on Thursday, slamming the special counsel investigation as a "total mess" that has "gone absolutely nuts."
"The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts," Trump tweeted.
"They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don't…....care how many lives the ruin," he added.
Trump did not provide any evidence for his claims. The attacks come shortly after Trump forced out Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who had recused himself from the investigation, and named Matt Whitaker as acting attorney general. Whitaker is now overseeing Mueller.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-probe-calls-it-total-mess-absolutely-n936526
President Donald Trump escalated his war on Robert Mueller on Thursday, slamming the special counsel investigation as a "total mess" that has "gone absolutely nuts."
"The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts," Trump tweeted.
"They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don't…....care how many lives the ruin," he added.
Trump did not provide any evidence for his claims. The attacks come shortly after Trump forced out Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who had recused himself from the investigation, and named Matt Whitaker as acting attorney general. Whitaker is now overseeing Mueller.
The Thriller
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How does Donald suddenly know of the “inner workings” of the Mueller investigation? I’m sure it has nothing to do with his firing of a recused Sessions and installation of some Trump cheerleader, right???
The real joke here is permitting the person under investigation such influence on the investigation. Yet another sign of guilt. What innocent person would install a puppet to disclose the details of the investigation in hopes of derailing it?
If trump is so innocent why not interview with Mueller and clear this whole misunderstanding up?
The real joke here is permitting the person under investigation such influence on the investigation. Yet another sign of guilt. What innocent person would install a puppet to disclose the details of the investigation in hopes of derailing it?
If trump is so innocent why not interview with Mueller and clear this whole misunderstanding up?
He doesn't, probably. Surely you are not taking the tweet of President Blowhard seriously?
Red
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Such an honorable crew...
https://amp.businessinsider.com/trump-fethullah-gulen-turkey-khashoggi-experts-stunned-2018-11
https://amp.businessinsider.com/trump-fethullah-gulen-turkey-khashoggi-experts-stunned-2018-11
- National-security and foreign-policy veterans were floored by a bombshell report that the US weighed extraditing one of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's biggest enemies to get Turkey to ease up on its investigation into the killing of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
- Turkey is furious at the Saudi government for carrying out Khashoggi's murder at the kingdom's consulate in Turkey.
- The White House reportedly floated the idea of booting out Fethullah Gulen, an exiled Turkish cleric and legal US resident, in exchange for Ankara backing off the Khashoggi inquiry.
- "This is the Trump administration seeking to barter away a US resident who has lived here legally for years," Ned Price, a former senior director of the National Security Council, told INSIDER.
- "If the White House seriously considered it, it shows to what lengths the [Jared] Kushner camp was willing to go to protect [Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman] in Riyadh," said another foreign-policy expert.
Zombie
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Really disgusting to see to what lengths this crew will go to appease the Saudis. Handing Gulen over to Erdogan is as good as killing him imo.
Our old friend Enes Kanter has had this to say about how Erdogan's regime treats its critics.
If you speak out against Erdogan, it can affect your whole life and everyone around you. It has been too dangerous for me to set foot in Turkey for three years. The last time I visited, the government destroyed my brothers’ school and threw my dentist and his wife in prison. The regime arrested and charged a man for links to Gulen after I took a picture with his child, and went after a comedian after he exchanged a few tweets with me. Last year, Erdogan canceled my passport and put out an international warrant for my arrest. That means I am now stateless and pretty much can’t leave the United States.
Red
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So, in the Daily Caller Oval Office interview, Trump, for some strange reason, admits he appointed Matthew Whitaker as acting AG to kill the Mueller probe. Sometimes, he really doesn't seem that bright. Well, maybe more then sometimes....
https://amp.businessinsider.com/tru...ll-russia-probe-obstruction-of-justice-2018-1
- President Donald Trump indicated Wednesday that he replaced former Attorney General Jeff Sessions with former US Attorney Matthew Whitaker because he wants Whitaker to hamper the Russia investigation.
- Speaking to The Daily Caller, Trump called Whitaker "somebody that's very respected" and tacked on, "As far as I'm concerned, this is an investigation that should have never been brought."
- The statement is reminiscent of Trump's admission to NBC's Lester Holt last year that he ousted then FBI director James Comey because of the Russia investigation.
- "What is so unusual about Trump is that he publicly forecasts his motivation in a way that is self-defeating and self-incriminating," one DOJ veteran told INSIDER.
- Trump's interview with The Daily Caller comes after a series of bombshell developments in the Russia investigation, indicating that the president is increasingly worried about what the special counsel Robert Mueller has.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/trump-antifa-opposition-mobilize/
And, from the recesses of a disturbed mind, the whole Daily Caller interview:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/transcript-trump-daily-caller-interview/
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The Thriller
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What do you think Whittaker was appointed for?
Under normal circumstances I’d assume trump was just bluffing. But not now after he fired Sessions and appointed a puppet, like Whittaker.
I don't think Whittaker has been around long enough to know the environment of the investigation, and I don't believe that they are shouting and screaming at people (threatening, sure, they are prosecutors).