Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

[Deleted member 365]

I think you are crazy for wanting Trump impeached, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because Pence will probably be WAY WAY WAY worse for the liberal agenda, since he actually commands respect among conservatives and could get real change pushed through the legislature that could put this country back decades. But you keep spouting the DNC talking points, re-write this "history" you claim to know so much of, and keep waving that liberal flag. Foaming at the mouth is always such a convincing tactic.

If partisan politics was my top priority, then yes, I'd love to see trump remain a noose around the GOP's neck for 4 years. But I want what's best for the country. Pence is the superior politician to trump, for sure. But trump is such a nonsensical and dangerous figure that I want him out of the picture asap. Colluding with the Russians to subvert our democracy cannot stand. We'll take him out soon enough. Donald's fat *** mouth and twitter only speeds up the process.

Standing up for free and independent elections shouldn't be a partisan issue. The mere fact that you're attempting to make it partisan says a hell of a lot more about you than me.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Serious question LG, would you give your kids life for any of the reasons you cited?

This.

 

[babe]

My wife likes the Coast to Coast website, as she enjoys reading up on anomalous phenomena, as do I. We actually met in the UFO section of a local bookstore, as we both have a life long interest in the subject. I don't myself visit Coast to Coast much, and for the type of stories involved, I like The Daily Grail most of all. Besides the usual off beat topics, the publisher there keeps track of "outside the box" thinking in science, especially physics. Being a Fortean by temperament, I have always enjoyed the anomalous and thinking outside the box.

Now, I'll let you know something. Two nights ago, I sat down and said "what do I truly feel about babe and his ideas? Can I put it into words that will represent my honest and heartfelt opinion? I need to do this, because I have tried so very hard to understand him, and I know I cannot keep up with the directions he goes in at times, and I want to be better able to provide a truly honest answer to his comments, and not just wing it off the top of my head. Maybe I owe it to him; I know I owe it to myself."

So, that's what I did, and I said, "well, I'm not going to post this, but it does help clarify my own thoughts re babe, and I really needed to do that, and perhaps if he replies to me next time, maybe it will be a good time to post this". So, that's what I did with my last long reply to you. It's what I wrote 2 nights ago, and is as honest and heartfelt an opinion as I could come up with. I believe in what I wrote, and it's not likely I would decide I need to dismiss it as off base. I cannot support your points of view, but if I ever gave the impression that I don't respect you, that is simply not the case. But I wanted you to know what arises in my own mind as a result of reading many of your comments, almost all related to our nation's most recent history, and the state of the world today.

Education, as most people consider it, consists of imposing an imagined reality on the world, and believing it.

Some people let teachers, professors, or other esteemed authorities provide that imagined reality for them.

I produce my own.

And don't consider them "settled science".

 

[babe]

OK, the absolute true notion of education consists of bringing out the best we are capable of, in terms of what may be considered "best" by various "educators", whatever that may be.

I would argue that I have been what I am since before I was born. Well, I do remember being less than two years old. People called me babe even then. After all my casting about for understanding, I ultimately have "come home" to the original.

I hated the UN when I was seven years old, I knew those weekly reader sheets were propaganda. I didn't look to the teacher for my world view, I looked out the window and studied the mountains. I did like the Pledge of Allegiance, and the Lord's Prayer. I fell in love when I was five, and have never really been out of love ever. My beautiful 4th cousin with brown eyes and jet black hair got sick and I was told "lost her voice". I went to the barn and bawled and prayed God give her voice back. In just one week that prayer was answered, and I've never doubted prayer since.

When I learned to read, about two years behind the curve, I found a set of historical biographies of famous Americans. I read them all. I knew then why America was great. It was because the other countries were not, yes. But more than that, people did not have a chance in the old countries because they had no access to resources. Americans could wander out into the forests and find a nice stream, build a cabin, and kill a bear for a nice winter robe. In Europe you had to huddle outside the castle walls and beg a little bread. People are still coming here looking for a chance to live a better life.

The only reason we have a better life is because we have more freedom. Now our "liberals" want to take all that away, and make us huddle outside guvmint offices and beg, and make all the rules they want about what we can say and do, and keep us from wandering out into the "King's Forest". The liberals might let you farm like the bigshots used to let sharecroppers wear rags and slog around in the mud and wear their fingers to the bone with no real tools to try to grow stuff, but like the land barons of all history, they want more than half of what you produce, so they can live like bigshots.

Liberals are not liberal, they lie and pretend they are good, and kind, and whatever else they need to claim. They are all about control, slavery, and themselves. When I was a child, they were called fascists, and they still are, even if they try to tell you you're a bad person to use words for what they mean.

Life is good when you can love a pretty girl, do the work you want using the stuff around you, and keep the harvest.

I want my country back.

These ideas are not populism, they are the root of every nation that ever prospered, and when ever people forgot them, they went into slavery again. This is the root notion of human rights and human liberty.

Liberals ought to get off their blind arrogant high horses and just let people live free.

Trump is not a populist, he is another liberal who is just tired of other liberal stooges getting in his way. Like a bull in a china shop, he's bound to upset the established comfortable ways of government a little.... but can do very little, really. Because once upon a time, some folks designed a government that was supposed to limit the arrogance of power.

It will take a long time to unwind the ball of yarn the liberals have tied up in knots in the name of "guvmint", but it is a job people will ultimately have to do if they are determined to live free. Just gotta let people get free enough to live without so much guvmint, and re-learn the basics of self-reliance.

It might take a lifetime, but that is just what we have, and that is just what we have to do.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Are you living in a cave?

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-flynn-comey-russia-timeline-2017-htmlstory.html

I don't know if you just get your news from Fox News or if you haven't been following this... it's amazing how obtuse those who lean right are in this Russian impact on our election.

so yeah you sanctimonious caring understanding nineties type. After reading that which is nothing new you haven't answered my question. What i see is a bunch of self serving dickheads who are running around like chooks with their heads chopped off. This is all stuff that's been reported on widely. What i was after is has there been actually established evidence that the Russians hacked the election, and evidence of the Trump campaign being specifically complicit, not just some clown who's struggling to remember if he associates with Russians.

Try something novel and just indulge in common sense dialogue instead of automatically flapping your gums about right this left that. I don't give a toss about left and right just common sense and hard facts. Am i living in a cave, pretty funny coming from someone who doesn't live in the real world.

 

[DutchJazzer]

lol the division in hte world remind sme of a rathe rclaiscal biblical sotry!

the tower of babylon. the state grew so big and powerful. people had their own truths.
their alternative facts,
their own gender pronouns
their own definitions of marriage!
their own settled science!
it is leading to a divide of biblical proportions

until there was no way they could communicate with each other and Babylon fell!


sure the western world thinks it happens suddenly in the old testament. but it could have happened gradually just like it is now!

i'm just sitting here with my 3 month food supply and a bug out vehicle ready for **** to hit the fan!

call me crazy all ya want. but this is my settled SCIENTIFIC historical FACTS!
also it is settled union psychology! so their is no disputing it!
the tower/skyscraper is a Jungian archetype of our collective subconscious.

in a Jungian sense the state is build up as this magnificent mighty marvelous tower that represent the collective psyche of our society and would make human kind their own god! meanwhile disconnecting individuals from themselves, taking away individuals true natural rights!


be warned my brothers and sisters! just know i will always be your brother!



the parallels are astonishing

but the proof is in the pudding!

 

[babe]

Yep. The authorization to use force was a mistake. But at that time no one in America could question the order or else they'd be depicted as "soft on terrorism." Remember how incensed right wing drones became over France and Germany? Calling French fries "freedumb" fries?

Do you remember who Hans Blix was? Here, let me educate you. If saddam really was interfering with the weapons inspectors and if they really had restarted their weapons program, why did UN weapons inspectors say this:



And





So not only was Iraq cooperating but weapons inspectors weren't finding any evidence of a continued Iraq wmd program.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2003/feb/14/iraq.unitednations1

Not only that, but our very ambassador called the "yellow cake" evidence that the Bush regime relied so heavily? Remember Ambassador Wilson? Here, let me educate you. Here's how he described it:



https://mobile.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/opinion/what-i-didn-t-find-in-africa.html

I wish mindless right wing drones would learn history instead of attempting to rewrite it. Squirm LG squirm. You might be able to bully a few teenage boys on Facebook with your nonsense posts. But you're dealing with the big leagues here. People who study and teach history and economics for a living easily debunk your pathetic fact free posts. It's funny how those who know the least tend to speak the most. Such a tendency is prone among those ignorant. Just look at the right's champion, Donald Trump, snow flake of the ignorant in this country. He keeps lying and when fact checkers call him out he whines. And that whining is followed with the whine from his cult following.

But go ahead, continue to whine about the mean media and how persecuted you deplorables are. Keep cryin LG. In a few months you'll be able to cry about how the mean media and mean academics forced the house to initiate impeachment proceedings.

I like how you call yourself the "big leagues here".

yeah, and the part about how you teach history and economics and how those who know the least speak the most.

That's gotta be a home run description of in-house so-called fact checkers and our major media retailers.

Trump's "cult following" is pathetic. Deplorables no less. Trump is the "snowflake of the ignorant".

a lot of "mindless right wing drones" like Ron Paul have questioned the prudence of US militarism and UN world policeman actions even when almost every liberal in the media or the government was in that patriotic Kool-Aid tank swimming with the Brits about how to impose modern UN democracy on all those deplorable uncivilized ignorant little savages around the globe.

I think "making the world safe for Democracy" has been around in the progressive elite mindset since before WWI.

all the big league liberals were waving the flag for taking down Saddam. What was the vote in support of Bush's war? oh, was there anyone besides Ron Paul who voted no?

But hey, I gotta give you credit now for 20/20 hindsight, even if you would have been calling me names for opposing the Iraq war. Madeline Albright has always been a shining light promoting world peace and the UN, hasn't she? She told Hussein, speaking as US SOS that we'd look the other way if Iraq took down Kuwait.

wonderful US foreign policy experts hanging out with the Trilateral Commission or CFR have been dreamily ruminating about a new Great War in the Middle East since the seventies, at the very least. You ever hear of Zbigniew Brzezinski? Pretty cagey little non-American guiding the US through the quagmire since Carter, and wrong every step of the way.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/zbigniew-brzezinski-the-man-behind-obamas-foreign-policy/21369/

Without eager little historical redactors teaching our kids, we'd have no self-respect.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Someone please give me a summary of this situation. Will rep.


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[Deleted member 365]

Someone please give me a summary of this situation. Will rep.


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Most believe that trump is guilty of obstruction of justice and will soon be impeached.

A few think trump is innocent and it's the mean media persecuting good Christian conservatives.

And Dutch and babe are writing extra long tangents that no one actually reads.

 

[DutchJazzer]

about half the people believe that trump is guilty of obstruction of justice and will soon be impeached.

the other half think trump is innocent and it's the mean media persecuting good Christian conservatives.

And Dutch and babe are writing extra long tangents that no one actually reads, but are a peek into their disturbed mental subconscious.

fixed!


why do you think it is some! you are making same mistake the left made before election. underestimating the people behind trump

 

[fishonjazz]

Most believe that trump is guilty of obstruction of justice and will soon be impeached.

A few think trump is innocent and it's the mean media persecuting good Christian conservatives.

And Dutch and babe are writing extra long tangents that no one actually reads.

Pretty decent summary tbh.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Most believe that trump is guilty of obstruction of justice and will soon be impeached.

A few think trump is innocent and it's the mean media persecuting good Christian conservatives.

And Dutch and babe are writing extra long tangents that no one actually reads.

What is he accused of doing? Didn't everyone want Comey fired?


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