What's so hard to believe? His whole life he has operated on nothing but persistent bluff and bravado.
Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
What's so hard to believe? His whole life he has operated on nothing but persistent bluff and bravado.
Red
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Ex-CIA Director: the CIA would consider Kushner's actions to constitute espionage. He describes that point of view in an interview:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...if-kushner-set-up-secure-line-with-russia-cia
An ex-CIA Director has no authority to determine what espionage is or is not. Likely a Bush hack, and speaking for political objectives.
You continue to exhibit such partisanship in your own political agenda pushing I wouldn't put it past you to believe that anyone who supports actual US elections as law-abiding and patriotic might be some kind of spy trying to defeat political progress as you deem that to be.
The CIA and NSA are charged with gathering information about the activities and objects of potential enemies, or even friends, that is necessary to the State Department in pursuance of American foreign policy objectives, determined by the executive branch... the President and his cabinet. Well, at least so far as their activities are subject to any oversight by elected government officers like the President or the Legislature. We mere moronic voters are kept from having a full understanding of their activities because that would potentially be problematic not just to our elected leaders' undisclosed objectives but to the working peons who do the spying.
I'm no expert on the subject, but I articulate the general professions of our government which are commonly pedaled to the mushroom citizen class.
In our current world of international relations, most nations have compromised their sovereignty to some degree in favor of UN governance and various international pacts and treaties and working agreements whateverthehell they are called. And everybody does some level of backchannel negotiating and communication.
I am perfectly certain that Hillary had one or more backchannel lines of communication with various Russian government officials and even Russian business people, the oligarchs if you please. I am perfectly certain Obama did as much of that, or more.
If you are willing to be reasonable, I could bring in some critics of Trump from the so-called "Patriot" side who believe and can articulate reasons why they think Jared Kushner is an Israeli spy. But then Hillary and Obama have people like that in their organizations, too. As well as people with Islamic inside relations.
If the big media political retailers were objective, they would put these things into some kind of balanced perspective, but they are not objective, they are politically partisan.
That's why, in terms of their profession of any sort of factual journalism is concerned, I call they liars.
Hillary no doubt used her private server "backchannel" for the illegal purpose of doing official business free of the FOIA. No doubt she used it in communication with not only democratic party friends but in dealings with persons of influence in other nations, and no doubt she understood there would be Hell to pay if ordinary Americans ever found out all that stuff she did.
If you and other political agenda pushers don't care to apply the plain and simple law to Hillary equally to what you want applied to Trump, I have no respect for you.
DutchJazzer
Banned
also backchannel communications are now wrong!
but when Obama did it with other "enemies" of the usa! nobody called for his impeachment!
IF IT WASN'T FOR THE DOUBLE STANDARD THE LEFT WOULD HAVE no STANDARD at all!
it's ok to have a picture of a decapitated trump head! but when a rodeo clow wore an obama mask! the world went CRAZY! and he had to go to some re-education CAMP!
**** the left!
lol remmeber obama telling the opponents to go to the back of the bus! why the f aren't the democrats sitting in the back of the buss! they wanna decapitate the buss!
but when Obama did it with other "enemies" of the usa! nobody called for his impeachment!
IF IT WASN'T FOR THE DOUBLE STANDARD THE LEFT WOULD HAVE no STANDARD at all!
it's ok to have a picture of a decapitated trump head! but when a rodeo clow wore an obama mask! the world went CRAZY! and he had to go to some re-education CAMP!
**** the left!
lol remmeber obama telling the opponents to go to the back of the bus! why the f aren't the democrats sitting in the back of the buss! they wanna decapitate the buss!
Red
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The Intercept is publishing a classified NSA document that reveals deeper penetration by Russian hackers then has been revealed up to this point in time...
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05...ian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/
"RUSSIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE executed a cyberattack on at least one U.S. voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than 100 local election officials just days before last November’s presidential election, according to a highly classified intelligence report obtained by The Intercept.
The top-secret National Security Agency document, which was provided anonymously to The Intercept and independently authenticated, analyzes intelligence very recently acquired by the agency about a months-long Russian intelligence cyber effort against elements of the U.S. election and voting infrastructure. The report, dated May 5, 2017, is the most detailed U.S. government account of Russian interference in the election that has yet come to light."
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05...ian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/
"RUSSIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE executed a cyberattack on at least one U.S. voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than 100 local election officials just days before last November’s presidential election, according to a highly classified intelligence report obtained by The Intercept.
The top-secret National Security Agency document, which was provided anonymously to The Intercept and independently authenticated, analyzes intelligence very recently acquired by the agency about a months-long Russian intelligence cyber effort against elements of the U.S. election and voting infrastructure. The report, dated May 5, 2017, is the most detailed U.S. government account of Russian interference in the election that has yet come to light."
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/politics/federal-contractor-leak-prosecution/index.html
Huh. Classified document reaches media. Charges already up, validating the document.
Document reports voting software supplier was breached.
Huh. Classified document reaches media. Charges already up, validating the document.
Document reports voting software supplier was breached.
DutchJazzer
Banned
voter fraud is real
Red
Well-Known Member
Boy, there are days when it can be next to impossible to keep up with developments in the probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election. Basically, three different stories were breaking news Tuesday night:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/trump-comey-coats/527349/
"In a rapid-fire series of stories on Tuesday evening, The New York Times reported that Comey told Attorney General Jeff Sessions he did not want to be alone with Trump one day after the president asked him to halt the federal investigation into Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national-security adviser; ABC News reported that Trump’s anger at Sessions for recusing himself from the organization had prompted Sessions to offer to resign; and The Washington Post reported that Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats had told associates that Trump had asked him NSA Director Mike Rogers, to intervene with Comey to end the investigation."
Why the Russia news is painting an increasingly grim picture for Trump. Or, just why is protecting Flynn an all consuming passion for the man?:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rim-picture-for-trump/?utm_term=.d20e54eaab9a
"As top intelligence and law enforcement officials testify in front of Congress this week, one big question looms: Did President Trump attempt to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation?
It's a question with all kinds of legal ins and outs and is very unlikely to be resolved in the next two days. But from a political and appearance perspective, Trump just suffered another major setback."
"But here's why the latest news is particularly bad for Trump: It erases any idea that the Comey request was just a one-off. We have now learned that Comey isn't the only top official whom Trump approached in an effort to free Flynn from his investigation.
One approach could perhaps be understood as Trump going over his skis while standing up for a close political ally and top former adviser; to show that he made a concerted effort to try to release Flynn from scrutiny. And the Coats request reportedly came weeks after the Comey one, suggesting this idea was on Trump's mind for some time.
The question from there becomes why — why did Trump feel so strongly about getting Flynn off the hook? And there are basically two good answers to that question:
Trump is excessively loyal to Michael Flynn, to a fault
Trump fears what could come of the Flynn investigation"
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/trump-comey-coats/527349/
"In a rapid-fire series of stories on Tuesday evening, The New York Times reported that Comey told Attorney General Jeff Sessions he did not want to be alone with Trump one day after the president asked him to halt the federal investigation into Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national-security adviser; ABC News reported that Trump’s anger at Sessions for recusing himself from the organization had prompted Sessions to offer to resign; and The Washington Post reported that Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats had told associates that Trump had asked him NSA Director Mike Rogers, to intervene with Comey to end the investigation."
Why the Russia news is painting an increasingly grim picture for Trump. Or, just why is protecting Flynn an all consuming passion for the man?:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rim-picture-for-trump/?utm_term=.d20e54eaab9a
"As top intelligence and law enforcement officials testify in front of Congress this week, one big question looms: Did President Trump attempt to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation?
It's a question with all kinds of legal ins and outs and is very unlikely to be resolved in the next two days. But from a political and appearance perspective, Trump just suffered another major setback."
"But here's why the latest news is particularly bad for Trump: It erases any idea that the Comey request was just a one-off. We have now learned that Comey isn't the only top official whom Trump approached in an effort to free Flynn from his investigation.
One approach could perhaps be understood as Trump going over his skis while standing up for a close political ally and top former adviser; to show that he made a concerted effort to try to release Flynn from scrutiny. And the Coats request reportedly came weeks after the Comey one, suggesting this idea was on Trump's mind for some time.
The question from there becomes why — why did Trump feel so strongly about getting Flynn off the hook? And there are basically two good answers to that question:
Trump is excessively loyal to Michael Flynn, to a fault
Trump fears what could come of the Flynn investigation"
Red
Well-Known Member
BTW, since you're replying to Harambe's comments that the Russians hacked one of the software suppliers for our voting infrastructure, you're essentially stating that you agree that the Russians might have the ability to themselves generate voter fraud, something which would seem to contradict your incessant claims that Russiagate is "fake news".
Red
Well-Known Member
Three senior FBI officials can vouch for Comey's story about Trump.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/7/15751336/fbi-trump-russia-comey-trump-flynn
"One by one this winter, then-FBI Director James B. Comey pulled aside three of the bureau’s top officials for private chats. In calm tones, he told each of them about a private Oval Office meeting with President Trump — during which, Comey alleged, the president pressed him to shut down the federal criminal investigation of Trump’s then-national security adviser, Michael Flynn.
Those three officials, according to two people with detailed, firsthand knowledge of the matter, were Jim Rybicki, Comey’s chief of staff and senior counselor; James Baker, the FBI’s general counsel; and Andrew McCabe, then the bureau’s deputy director, and now the acting director, following Trump’s firing of Comey last month. Comey spoke to them within two days of his Oval conversation with Trump, the sources said, and recounted the president’s comments about the Flynn investigation.
The White House and Trump have categorically denied Comey’s account, which Comey reportedly detailed in his own notes shortly after his encounter with Trump. Thus far, the allegation has played as a he-said, she-said between the president and the director he abruptly removed.
That no longer appears to be the case — it will be Trump’s word versus the word of Comey and at least three other leaders of the FBI."
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/7/15751336/fbi-trump-russia-comey-trump-flynn
"One by one this winter, then-FBI Director James B. Comey pulled aside three of the bureau’s top officials for private chats. In calm tones, he told each of them about a private Oval Office meeting with President Trump — during which, Comey alleged, the president pressed him to shut down the federal criminal investigation of Trump’s then-national security adviser, Michael Flynn.
Those three officials, according to two people with detailed, firsthand knowledge of the matter, were Jim Rybicki, Comey’s chief of staff and senior counselor; James Baker, the FBI’s general counsel; and Andrew McCabe, then the bureau’s deputy director, and now the acting director, following Trump’s firing of Comey last month. Comey spoke to them within two days of his Oval conversation with Trump, the sources said, and recounted the president’s comments about the Flynn investigation.
The White House and Trump have categorically denied Comey’s account, which Comey reportedly detailed in his own notes shortly after his encounter with Trump. Thus far, the allegation has played as a he-said, she-said between the president and the director he abruptly removed.
That no longer appears to be the case — it will be Trump’s word versus the word of Comey and at least three other leaders of the FBI."