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It did originally surprise me to learn that not all Americans feel it is any big deal to have our nation's sovereignty messed with by a foreign power. Even more so, given that that power has been our chief geopolitical rival in the Post WWII era. But I have learned to accept this nonchalant attitude as a fact. Maybe some don't regard our sovereignty as important to any degree. Maybe some think that interference never even happened.

It was a type of attack, grounded in the new battlefield of cyber war. Both via hacking and via manipulation of social media. Maybe because we ourselves have engaged in cyber warfare, and some may see it as "what goes around comes around". I'm not sure of all the factors that make so many Americans shrug their shoulders at Russian interference. We can be certain the new possibilities of achieving foreign policy aims against rivals/enemies, without firing a shot, or losing one Russian soldier, has not been lost on Putin. I really wish all Americans would just wake up and recognize an attack as an attack, but I do accept that some Americans are incapable of giving a damn in that respect.

Meanwhile, the FBI raided the office of Trump's lawyer, Cohen, today. Sounds like it pertains to the Stormy Daniels matter, and not the Russian investigation.
I've noticed a shocking difference in the response when a conservative is accused of some political misdoing vs when a liberal is accused. As for our sovereignty, anyone who is surprised that foreign powers would attempt to exert influence in whatever ways they can needs their head examined. We should expect this, not be shocked by it.

I think we should expect this massive investigation to produce actual results indicating that there is a connection between Russian hacking and the Trump campaign, or to come to some other conclusion. The salivation over this whole process from the never-Trump crowd gets more ridiculous every day. They are so starved for his demise that every development in the case, no matter how minor, ignites a new round of rampant, one-sided speculation. The vast majority of these anti-Trumpers seem incapable of recognizing that this investigation has produced very, very little so far. But Mueller did find a foreigner guilty of something that apparently warrants a 30 day sentence, so they must be getting very close to handing down the indictments of Trump and his inner circle for collusion with the Russians, right?

We'll be sure to let you know when the world needs an expert on your lower bowel, or the tip of your nose.
Thanks. I'm not sure what your point is, but if anyone wants an expert on your toenail fungus or on your ear hair I'll be sure to send them your way.
 
I'll say it again, if Trump fires Mueller either he gets impeached or mass demonstrations, which I will take part in.

I hope there is a line for Trump's fellow Republicans and I hope that firing Mueller is well beyond that line.
 
I've noticed a shocking difference in the response when a conservative is accused of some political misdoing vs when a liberal is accused. As for our sovereignty, anyone who is surprised that foreign powers would attempt to exert influence in whatever ways they can needs their head examined. We should expect this, not be shocked by it.

I think we should expect this massive investigation to produce actual results indicating that there is a connection between Russian hacking and the Trump campaign, or to come to some other conclusion. The salivation over this whole process from the never-Trump crowd gets more ridiculous every day. They are so starved for his demise that every development in the case, no matter how minor, ignites a new round of rampant, one-sided speculation. The vast majority of these anti-Trumpers seem incapable of recognizing that this investigation has produced very, very little so far. But Mueller did find a foreigner guilty of something that apparently warrants a 30 day sentence, so they must be getting very close to handing down the indictments of Trump and his inner circle for collusion with the Russians, right.

I know, personally, I was not shocked that Putin's Russia could be good at the new warfare made possible by cyber battlefields. Be it stealing emails and releasing them weaponized, or weaponizing social media, staging actual rallies on our soil, even. I'm not surprised their so-called "active measures" is that aggressive, and not just when used against us. My mistake was expecting a strong response on the part of American citizens to recognize this form of attack as an attack, at least when it was all laid out there. I don't know, to me it's as if Putin kicked us in the nuts, and we decide we're just going to take it. My mistake was expecting a more robust response.

I'm not surprised that such a response was not forthcoming from Trump, and I could speculate all night on the why, I suspect there's a great deal there, and I do expect when all is said and done, we will either see too close a relationship to mobsters, or a traitor. Or both.

Here is the Trump I recognize all too well, the Trump I fully expected, the Trump that represents what I too naively perhaps do not believe represents the best in our national character:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/trumps-assault-on-rule-of-law/557600/

Am I detached from reality if I believe that portrays who our President is, and gave every indication he would be if he were elected?

That''s the Trump I recognized from the day he descended the escalator. I can't help it. That's what I was afraid of. Is it a lie? It's for sure the antithesis of the Trump portrayed by Foxlandia. You speak derisively of the "never Trump" crowd. Well, Trump is the man who would stand above the law. "Never-Trump"?? Why would anyone EVER want such a man as their leader?!

Now maybe we get to see the real fireworks. Maybe a constitutional crisis. Likely the most tumultuous mid terms of our lifetimes. I believe my view of Trump will be the view History judges the man to have been. I hope we come out of this mess in one piece. And I hope Putin gets his.
 
I'll say it again, if Trump fires Mueller either he gets impeached or mass demonstrations, which I will take part in.

I hope there is a line for Trump's fellow Republicans and I hope that firing Mueller is well beyond that line.

It sure is sounding like he will fire him. I don't doubt that Trump would sacrifice the midterms to save his skin. Temporarily, at least. Excellent chance the Democrats win at least the House anyway. Sorry to say, I also don't doubt a Republican House will fail to impeach him if he fires Mueller. Too many don't seem to care how history will judge them. Right now, Trump is like a cornered animal. With a foreign crisis in Syria to change the subject. But with a noose around Cohen, he may say **** it, and fire Mueller soon.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/robert-mueller-donald-trump-white-house/index.html
 
I think the raids on Cohen's home, office and hotel are more than shady ladies. It's a legal issue, maybe finance.... maybe a campaign finance issue. I think criminal charges will be made.

Still, the difficult thing I don't think the dumpTrumpers will understand, is that Americans won't care. Well, say 70% won't care.

"Arrogance of Power" has been such a defining characteristic of Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons for so long, all people will see is that the dirty fingers pointing at Trump are a worse deal than even Trump, no matter what he's done.

"Arrogance of Power" is the kind of power tyrants always insist on making a show of. It consists of all the little songs and dances.....literally sheer defiance of law right in front of the public gaze.... that demonstrates that the tyrant is above the law.

So because others have been doing it, and everybody knows it already... why make a fuss about Trump. People will figure that the accusers are out to steal their vote, and they will choke on that. No way. This will be where the Left loses the public entirely.
 
It sure is sounding like he will fire him. I don't doubt that Trump would sacrifice the midterms to save his skin. Temporarily, at least. Excellent chance the Democrats win at least the House anyway. Sorry to say, I also don't doubt a Republican House will fail to impeach him if he fires Mueller. Too many don't seem to care how history will judge them. Right now, Trump is like a cornered animal. With a foreign crisis in Syria to change the subject. But with a noose around Cohen, he may say **** it, and fire Mueller soon.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/robert-mueller-donald-trump-white-house/index.html

It'll be a mistake if Trump does fire him. Just let the show go on, whatever. What I'm seeing is people turning on the agenda wholesale. Trump approval rates rising faster every day this goes on.
 
Yeah, that's pretty shameful. Maybe it's time for me to remove myself from the GOP.

In other news, https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d6345a-3e89-11e8-912d-16c9e9b37800_story.html

Trump’s allies worry that federal investigators may have seized recordings made by his attorney

By Ashley Parker, Carol D. Leonnig, Josh Dawsey and Tom Hamburger April 12 at 7:29 PM Email the author
President Trump’s personal attorney Michael D. Cohen sometimes taped conversations with associates, according to three people familiar with his practice, and allies of the president are worried that the recordings were seized by federal investigators in a raid of Cohen’s office and residences this week.

Cohen, who served for a decade as a lawyer at the Trump Organization and is a close confidant of Trump, was known to store the conversations using digital files and then replay them for colleagues, according to people who have interacted with him.

“We heard he had some proclivity to make tapes,” said one Trump adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. “Now we are wondering, who did he tape? Did he store those someplace where they were actually seized? . . . Did they find his recordings?”

Cohen did not respond to requests for comment. Stephen Ryan, an attorney for Cohen, declined to comment. A White House spokeswoman referred a request for comment to Cohen and his attorney.

On Monday, FBI agents seized Cohen’s computers and phones as they executed a search warrant that sought, among other records, all communications between the lawyer and Trump and campaign aides about “potential sources of negative publicity” in the lead-up to the 2016 election, The Washington Post reported.

Investigators were also looking for any records related to adult-film star Stormy Daniels and ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal, who both received payments after alleged affairs with Trump.

It is unknown whether Cohen taped conversations between himself and Trump. But two people familiar with Cohen’s practices said he recorded both business and political conversations. One associate said Trump knew of Cohen’s practice because the attorney would often play him recordings Cohen had made of his conversations with other top Trump advisers.

“It was his standard practice to do it,” this person said.

Legal experts said Cohen’s taped conversations would be viewed by prosecutors as highly valuable.

“If you are looking for evidence, you can’t do any better than people talking on tape,” said Nick Akerman, a former Watergate prosecutor.

Such recordings “would be considered a gold mine,” said Stephen Gillers, a law professor at New York University who specializes in legal ethics.

“The significance is 9.5 to 10 on a 10-point scale,” he added, noting that investigators know “that when people speak on the phone, they are not guarded. They don’t imagine that the conversation will surface.”

Federal investigators would not automatically get access to any tapes that might have been seized in the raids. First, the recordings would be reviewed by a separate Justice Department team and possibly by a federal judge. The review is designed to protect lawyer-client privilege and to be sure that the conversations turned over are within the terms of the search warrant, legal experts said.

They noted that the privilege accorded to attorney-client communications does not apply if the conversation was conducted to further commission of a crime or fraud.

Cohen wanted his business calls on tape so he could use them later as leverage, one person said. He frequently noted that under New York law, only one party had to consent to the taping of a conversation, this person added.

During the 2016 race, Cohen — who did not have a formal role on the campaign — had a reputation among campaign staff as someone to avoid, in part because he was believed to be secretly taping conversations.

In one instance, Cohen played a recording of a conversation he had with someone else to a Trump campaign official to demonstrate that he was in a position to challenge that person’s veracity if necessary, an associate recalled.

Cohen indicated that he had something to use against the person he had taped, the associate said.

One outside Trump adviser said Cohen may have begun recording his conversations in an attempt to emulate his boss, who has long boasted — often with no evidence — about secretly taping private conversations.

In May, for instance, a report appeared in the New York Times detailing fired FBI director James B. Comey’s account of a one-on-one dinner he had with the president, during which he said Trump asked him to pledge his loyalty to the president and he declined. Shortly after, Trump took to Twitter to cast doubt on Comey’s version of events, seeming to imply that he had secretly recorded their encounter.

“James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!” Trump wrote.

At the time, it was unclear whether Trump truly possessed tapes of his conversation with Comey or was simply trying to intimidate him. And ultimately, just over a month later, Trump cleared up the mystery by admitting in a duo of tweets that he had not, in fact, recorded Comey.

“With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea whether there are ‘tapes’ or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings,” he wrote.

Tim O’Brien, a Trump biographer and executive editor of Bloomberg View, wrote a column in the wake of Trump’s taping claim saying that Comey likely had little reason to worry. In the piece, O’Brien recounted that Trump frequently made a similar boast to him.

“Back in the early 2000s, Trump used to tell me all the time that he was recording me when I covered him as reporter for the New York Times,” O’Brien wrote. “He also said the same thing when I was writing a biography of him, ‘Trump Nation.’ I never thought he was, but who could be sure?”

But after Trump sued him for libel shortly after his biography came out, O’Brien’s lawyers deposed Trump in December 2007 — during which Trump admitted he had not, in fact, clandestinely taped O’Brien.

“I’m not equipped to tape-record,” Trump said in the deposition. “I may have said it once or twice to him just to — on the telephone, because everything I said to him he’d write incorrectly; so just to try and keep it honest.”

Robert Costa contributed to this report.
 
And now, further validation of the Steele Dossier.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article208870264.html

"The dossier alleges that Cohen, two Russians and several Eastern European hackers met at the Prague office of a Russian government-backed social and cultural organization, Rossotrudnichestvo. The location was selected to provide an alternative explanation in case the rendezvous was exposed, according to Steele’s Kremlin sources, cultivated during 20 years of spying on Russia. It said that Oleg Solodukhin, the deputy chief of Rossotrudnichestvo’s operation in the Czech Republic, attended the meeting, too.


Further, it alleges that Cohen, Kosachev and other attendees discussed “how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers in Europe who had worked under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign......."

......"If Cohen met with Russians and hackers in Prague as described in the dossier, it would provide perhaps the most compelling evidence to date that the Russians and Trump campaign aides were collaborating. Mueller’s office also has focused on two meetings in the spring of 2016 when Russians offered to provide Trump campaign aides with “dirt” on Clinton – thousands of emails in one of the offers."
 
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