Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

[Red]

There is clearly an agenda.

Of course there has always been an agenda. That agenda is to ascertain the truth regarding how the Russians interfered in our 2016 election, and, as well, to ascertain, to what degree, if any, that the Trump campaign assisted the Russians in their destabilization of our democracy. As well, we now know that the FBI developed enough evidence to open a counterintelligence operation, to determine if Trump himself, by firing Comey, was actually acting to protect Putin and Russia. In other words, was the obstruction actually itself collusion? These are important questions to answer where the integrity of our democracy is concerned. Answering all these questions are the agenda.

How about this. If Trump goes to jail or is impeached I quit Jazzfanz. If not you quit. Deal?

That's quite foolish. If you are right, you are right. If I am right, I am right. Our participation on this forum is not at issue. This is not about you or me. It's about the integrity of our democracy.

 

[Red]

Where is the Pro Trump propaganda?

Trump's own refrain, namely that the mainstream media is "the enemy of the people" is a part of that pro-Trump propaganda that for some reason you seem to think does not exist. This attack on one of the most important institutions in a healthy democracy, a free press( and need I remind you that an adversarial press has existed since the earliest days of our republic?) is a part of the pro-Trump bs.

As is the entire narrative of a "deep state" out to rob Trump of his duly elected status. This, in turn has led to attacks on the Department of Justice, another important, and independent, institution of our functioning democracy.

Fox News, with Hannity leading the charge, has served as the propaganda arm of the Trump administration, and has promulgated several asinine conspiracy theories over the last few years. Pizzagate, etc., etc. And every last one of their absurd conspiracy theories, in service to a guy who could himself easily be considered the Conspiracy Theorist-in-Chief, have been debunked to the hilt for the bs they are.

It's comical that you zero in on what you consider far left conspiracy theories when, Trump himself, has been one of the leading conspiracy promulgators of his generation. Beginning with claiming that Obama was not born in the United States, and continuing unabated to the present day and his "deep state" delusions. Heck, Trump even called into Alex Jones' show and told him he would not let him and his listeners down. Trump is leading the assault on reason where promoting conspiracy theories is concerned. An entire alternate universe, for heaven's sakes.

 

[Hotdog]

Trump's own refrain, namely that the mainstream media is "the enemy of the people" is a part of that pro-Trump propaganda that for some reason you seem to think does not exist. This attack on one of the most important institutions in a healthy democracy, a free press( and need I remind you that an adversarial press has existed since the earliest days of our republic?) is a part of the pro-Trump bs.

As is the entire narrative of a "deep state" out to rob Trump of his duly elected status. This, in turn has led to attacks on the Department of Justice, another important, and independent, institution of our functioning democracy.

Fox News, with Hannity leading the charge, has served as the propaganda arm of the Trump administration, and has promulgated several asinine conspiracy theories over the last few years. Pizzagate, etc., etc. And every last one of their absurd conspiracy theories, in service to a guy who could himself easily be considered the Conspiracy Theorist-in-Chief, have been debunked to the hilt for the bs they are.

It's comical that you zero in on what you consider far left conspiracy theories when, Trump himself, has been one of the leading conspiracy promulgators of his generation. Beginning with claiming that Obama was not born in the United States, and continuing unabated to the present day and his "deep state" delusions. Heck, Trump even called into Alex Jones' show and told him he would not let him and his listeners down. Trump is leading the assault on reason where promoting conspiracy theories is concerned. An entire alternate universe, for heaven's sakes.

The distrust for the main stream media was there long before Trump even decided to run for office. All he has done is say what a whole bunch of people are thinking. He is feeding the thirst for people's already present disdain for the heavily favored liberal media. This is a big reason why he got elected. Of course people see his flaws. You think a bunch of do gooder Christians were happy that they voted for the ***** grabbing president? Of course they weren't. They took the good with the bad because they felt some of the problems we face were important enough to tackle even if it meant plugging their nose and voting for a less than ideal candidate.

Of course the media is important. This is why they need to be called out when they arent telling the full truth and trying to deliberately persuade the public towards a certain ideology. Maybe Im alone on this, but Id prefer the media to have neutral stance on pretty much everything. I dont need to be told how to think, what to believe, what is right and wrong, etc.. Just report unbiased news. To say that the liberal media is fair is complete horse ****. Its dishonest as best. Its propaganda garbage.

You are over here complaining about "deep state" conspiracies all the while pushing the RussiaGate conspiracy. All you are doing is choosing to believe in one conspiracy over the other. Trump isnt pushing a deep state conspiracy. He isnt pushing anything. He is giving an explanation to the RussiaGate conspiracy. Trump is just trying to do his job while defending off the conspiracy theorists. If the conspiracy theorists didnt have there conspiracy theories we would even be talking about this. If the man is innocent what is he supposed to do? Not say anything? Ridiculous.

 

[colton]

The distrust for the main stream media was there long before Trump even decided to run for office. All he has done is say what a whole bunch of people are thinking.

No, that's not all that he has done. He has deliberately lied and lied and lied and lied about literally hundreds of matters. He has stoked paranoia and xenophobia. He is almost certainly corrupt. He is deliberately cruel. He is also crude. And quite stupid, as far as I can tell. He is endangering our national security. He has caused, or at least heavily contributed to, the longest governmental shut-down in our history.

According to the liberal/conservative scale you posted earlier I am pretty close to you in terms of politics, that is to say just right of center. But that doesn't mean I have to support this lying piece of crap.

 

[fishonjazz]

No, that's not all that he has done. He has deliberately lied and lied and lied and lied about literally hundreds of matters. He has stoked paranoia and xenophobia. He is almost certainly corrupt. He is deliberately cruel. He is also crude. And quite stupid, as far as I can tell. He is endangering our national security. He has caused, or at least heavily contributed to, the longest governmental shut-down in our history.

According to the liberal/conservative scale you posted earlier I am pretty close to you in terms of politics, that is to say just right of center. But that doesn't mean I have to support this lying piece of crap.

That's a great post. I can't understand why everyone can't see if the way you (and most) do.

It isn't a partisan thing. Trump is the worst of us as a human being. Why would anyone support the worst of us being the leader of our country?
It's crazy.

I can understand why someone would have voted for him. They hated Hillary. They thought Trump was for the people and would drain the swamp. They thought the media was overblowing the negative things about him.

But now? It's obvious that he is a horrible and disgusting person who is petty, greedy, deceitful, childish, and embarrassing along with those other adjectives you used to describe him. And possibly a criminal and an enemy to our country.
Even if he isn't the last part isn't all the other stuff he definitely is enough to make people stop supporting him?

But then you have people like hack in the country who are just as horrible so they probably like that a crappy human is running things.

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[Hotdog]

That's a great post. I can't understand why everyone can't see if the way you (and most) do.

It isn't a partisan thing. Trump is the worst of us as a human being. Why would anyone support the worst of us being the leader of our country?
It's crazy.

I can understand why someone would have voted for him. They hated Hillary. They thought Trump was for the people and would drain the swamp. They thought the media was overblowing the negative things about him.

But now? It's obvious that he is a horrible and disgusting person who is petty, greedy, deceitful, childish, and embarrassing along with those other adjectives you used to describe him. And possibly a criminal and an enemy to our country.
Even if he isn't the last part isn't all the other stuff he definitely is enough to make people stop supporting him?

But then you have people like hack in the country who are just as horrible so they probably like that a crappy human is running things.

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Give me a break! What a bunch of disingenuous hyperbole.

Represents the worst of all of us? Really bro? No one's worse than Trump? He has done nothing good for anyone?

None of you can actually point to anything that doesnt have a reasonable explanation behind it. You put on your super power dog whistling stethoscopes and try to find meaning in things he says. You dont actually have real words or facts to off of. At worst he doesnt choose his words wisely. You are all worked up from the propaganda being pushed the the air waves and you cant even see it. No self awareness.

 

[Harambe]

That's a great post. I can't understand why everyone can't see if the way you (and most) do.

It isn't a partisan thing. Trump is the worst of us as a human being. Why would anyone support the worst of us being the leader of our country?
It's crazy.

I can understand why someone would have voted for him. They hated Hillary. They thought Trump was for the people and would drain the swamp. They thought the media was overblowing the negative things about him.

But now? It's obvious that he is a horrible and disgusting person who is petty, greedy, deceitful, childish, and embarrassing along with those other adjectives you used to describe him. And possibly a criminal and an enemy to our country.
Even if he isn't the last part isn't all the other stuff he definitely is enough to make people stop supporting him?

But then you have people like hack in the country who are just as horrible so they probably like that a crappy human is running things.

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Man... when colton calls you on your right-winged-zealotry you gotta really ask yourself if you're a genuine person.

 

[Gameface]

Give me a break! What a bunch of disingenuous hyperbole.

Represents the worst of all of us? Really bro? No one's worse than Trump? He has done nothing good for anyone?

None of you can actually point to anything that doesnt have a reasonable explanation behind it. You put on your super power dog whistling stethoscopes and try to find meaning in things he says. You dont actually have real words or facts to off of. At worst he doesnt choose his words wisely. You are all worked up from the propaganda being pushed the the air waves and you cant even see it. No self awareness.

I don't think it is disingenuous at all. Not even a little bit. I also don't think it's hyperbole. Trump is disgusting. He is the epitome of the "Ugly American" stereotype.

"Ugly American" is a pejorative term used to refer to perceptions of loud, arrogant, demeaning, thoughtless, ignorant, and ethnocentric behavior of American citizens mainly abroad, but also at home.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Although the term is usually associated with or applied to travelers and tourists, it also applies to U.S. corporate businesses in the international arena.[8][9][10][11][12][13]

 

[Hotdog]

I don't think it is disingenuous at all. Not even a little bit. I also don't think it's hyperbole. Trump is disgusting. He is the epitome of the "Ugly American" stereotype.

Ive seen people say much worse things on this site than Trump has ever done. Some pretty disgusting things are said to me many times. Yet, these same people stand on their soapboxes claming moral superiority. Its kind of hard to take claims that Trump is a low life piece of crap when worse is said and done around here. Just the way people describe Trump they use much harsher language than Ive ever heard Trump using. How does that make any sense?

 

[Gameface]

Ive seen people say much worse things on this site than Trump has ever done. Some pretty disgusting things are said to me many times. Yet, these same people stand on their soapboxes claming moral superiority. Its kind of hard to take claims that Trump is a low life piece of crap when worse is said and done around here. Just the way people describe Trump they use much harsher language than Ive ever heard Trump using. How does that make any sense?

Words aren't magic. It isn't about vocabulary.

 

[Hotdog]

If what's reported in that buzzfeed story is true, then Trump's presidency must not survive it.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtm...sia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation?

Trump reportedly directed Cohen to lie to congress about the Trump Tower Project in Moscow.

Seems obstruction-y.

This guy needs to be impeached so bad



Nixon’s rolling in his grave

This is a huge ****ing deal if true. Maybe the most game changing development so far.

That seems to be the overwhelming sentiment exploding on Twitter at the moment.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c41826de4b0a8dbe16fb1f4/amp

Bahahahahahahahahahaha

Lmao

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html


This **** is hilarious.

But not really. This is exactly what the liberal news is about. Just report bull ****. Then retract. Wash rinse repeat. But but but. So much credibility. Smh

 

[The Midnight]

Bahahahahahahahahahaha

Lmao

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html


This **** is hilarious.

But not really. This is exactly what the liberal news is about. Just report bull ****. Then retract. Wash rinse repeat. But but but. So much credibility. Smh

LOL .. Wow. Just Wow.