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Mongoose said:
He also talks about how vaccines are inherently unsafe by definition. I think its a situation similar to the car analogy he brings up. It doesn't make you anti car to say cars are unsafe, or could be safer- especially if we are talking about cars pre-seatbelts.
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It's a bad analogy though. There are vaccines that are safe. There are no cars that are safe
And I don't have to "do my research" to get the safety of cars. We all see car crashes all the time. We all know someone who has been killed are badly injured by a car crash.
I know tons of people who have had various vaccines. Literally don't know a single one who died or was seriously injured from one.
 
From Wiki:

"Kennedy has claimed that he is not against vaccines but wishes that they be more thoroughly tested and investigated.[206][207] In Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak, Kennedy states he does not see himself as anti-vaccine, saying "People who advocate for safer vaccines should not be marginalized or denounced as anti-vaccine. I am pro-vaccine. I had all six of my children vaccinated. I believe that vaccines have saved the lives of hundreds of millions of humans over the past century and that broad vaccine coverage is critical to public health. But I want our vaccines to be as safe as possible."[208]
 
str8line said:
From Wiki:

"Kennedy has claimed that he is not against vaccines but wishes that they be more thoroughly tested and investigated.[206][207] In Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak, Kennedy states he does not see himself as anti-vaccine, saying "People who advocate for safer vaccines should not be marginalized or denounced as anti-vaccine. I am pro-vaccine. I had all six of my children vaccinated. I believe that vaccines have saved the lives of hundreds of millions of humans over the past century and that broad vaccine coverage is critical to public health. But I want our vaccines to be as safe as possible."[208]
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That's good stuff. Reading that would not make anyone think twice about their children getting their vaccines that we have all been getting for decades now.
Saying that there are no safe and effective vaccines would definitely make some people think twice about getting any vaccine. I doubt he would have his children get vaccinated if he didn't think the vaccines they were getting were safe and effective.

Confusing and contradicting messaging imo.
 
str8line said:
That almost sounded like he wasn't able to finish his thought. And his previous sentence supported certain vaccines as "averting more problems than they're causing".


Fridman, July 6: You’ve talked about that the media slanders you by calling you an anti-vaxxer, and you’ve said that you’re not anti-vaccine, you’re pro-safe vaccine. Difficult question: Can you name any vaccines that you think are good?

Kennedy: I think some of the live virus vaccines are probably averting more problems than they’re causing. There’s no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective.
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Here's one saying we'll have it worse than Anne Frank in Nazi Germany in 2022:

View: https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1485338127442984960


In 2015, Holocaust comparisons:
www.cbsnews.com

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. apologizes for "holocaust" comment in vaccine debate

Big-name activist says he's sorry for inflammatory language as debate over California vaccination law grows increasingly bitter
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

In 2013:
www.respectfulinsolence.com

Can antivaccinationists knock it off with the autism Holocaust analogies already? (RFK, Jr. edition)

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is despicable. I just wanted to get that off my chest. (Do clear Plexiglass boxes full of multicolored blinky multicolored lights even have chests?) The reason for my outburst will become painfully apparent all too soon, but I just had to say that. There’s also one other...
www.respectfulinsolence.com www.respectfulinsolence.com
 
I know next to nothing about autism but it looks like maybe RFK is trying to figure out an explanation. Currently there is no credible explanation for the staggering increases in autism over the last 20 years. The explanation given by the CDC sounds like some grade A BS to me.

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This sounds like bull crap:

The CDC says more children are being diagnosed with autism than ever before. The rates may reflect growing awareness of autism spectrum disorder and a focus on getting more children into treatment. Other factors including air pollution, low birth weight, and stress may also be behind the increase in diagnoses.
 
  1. According to the CDC, as of 2023, around 1 in 36 children in the U.S. has been diagnosed with autism.
  2. Around 75 million people have autism spectrum disorder, that's 1% of the world’s population.
  3. 1 in 100 children are diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder as of 2021.
  4. Autism prevalence has increased 178% since 2000.
  5. The country with the highest rate of diagnosed autism in the world is Qatar, and the country with the lowest rate is France.
  6. Around 4 times as many boys have autism as girls.
  7. The rate of autism in the U.S. went from 1 in 150 in 2000 to 1 in 100 in 2022.
 
str8line said:
I know next to nothing about autism
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Than perhaps you should not question people who do, or assume your Google University knowledge is meaningful.

str8line said:
but it looks like maybe RFK is trying to figure out an explanation.
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RFKJ has a false solution, one he won't give up.

str8line said:
This sounds like bull crap:

The CDC says more children are being diagnosed with autism than ever before. The rates may reflect growing awareness of autism spectrum disorder and a focus on getting more children into treatment. Other factors including air pollution, low birth weight, and stress may also be behind the increase in diagnoses.
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That's the same reason given in the Scientific American article.


str8line said:
France has the least autism in the world. This article from 2019, pre-covid, touches on it:

"This isn’t surprising in light of the widespread concern about childhood vaccines in France. One in three French people think vaccines are unsafe – the world’s highest rate – and nearly one in five believe they aren’t effective – second only to Liberia."
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Junk. France is strictly middle-of-the-pack on vaccinations rates. For example, #71 of 187 on measles vaccinations.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

Measles immunization rate by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2022 based on 187 countries was 84 percent. The highest value was in Antigua and Barbuda: 99 percent and the lowest value was in North Korea: 0 percent. The indicator is available from 1980 to 2022. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.
www.theglobaleconomy.com www.theglobaleconomy.com

Kuwait's vaccination rate is only 2% higher, but they are in the top 10% of autism cases.
worldpopulationreview.com

Autism Rates by Country 2025

Detailed overview of autism rates by country, highlighting both the top ten countries with the highest and the lowest autism rates.
worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com

Notice any commonalities in the top 10?

str8line said:
  1. According to the CDC, as of 2023, around 1 in 36 children in the U.S. has been diagnosed with autism.
  2. Around 75 million people have autism spectrum disorder, that's 1% of the world’s population.
  3. 1 in 100 children are diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder as of 2021.
  4. Autism prevalence has increased 178% since 2000.
  5. The country with the highest rate of diagnosed autism in the world is Qatar, and the country with the lowest rate is France.
  6. Around 4 times as many boys have autism as girls.
  7. The rate of autism in the U.S. went from 1 in 150 in 2000 to 1 in 100 in 2022.
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All true.
 
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