One Brow
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Said battle to conducted without violence, as Biden said multiple times in the speech.
Dictators don't eschew the use of political violence, as Biden did.
The more you overreact to the speech, the more scared you seem.
Donald is about to go through some things...
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The more you overreact to the speech, the more scared you seem.
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From time to time, the conservatives put out a bit of skepticism here, or a modification of a claim there. The liberal trolls don't show any sign of improving, but I have hope they may yet.
It's not only for the sake of the trolls.
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Special counsel Jack Smith stared at Trump throughout court appearance, report says
The former president was arraigned in Miami on federal charges on Tuesday
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View: https://twitter.com/lizmillerc1/status/1668713367110926339
Al-O-Meter
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Trump also called for actions on January 6 to be carried out "peaceful and patriotically", but that brings up a bigger question. What do you consider to be political violence?
Hypothetically, if a dictator flanked by soldiers under his command, fully armed and clearly battle-ready, instructs a populace to submit with the implication that they will be wrong end of the gun if they resist, would you consider that to be the use of political violence even if no shots are fired and no blood is spilled? The hypothetical dictator is calling for action without violence, but is a threat of violence even if it is only an implied threat via a show of force enough to be 'use of political violence'? I think it is.
I don't want to detract from the more interesting question above, but here in the real world Biden's "battle against Americans" speech doesn't worry me. What does concern me with Biden is that he does not have the faculties to run the country, so who is running the country? In Florida I do believe DeSantis is running that show, and in California I do believe Newsom is running that show, but in Washington DC there is no way Biden is the actual Commander in Chief. The instruction cards he is constantly photographed with make that obvious. I believe in sunshine being the enemy of corruption and the Biden administration is the most cloistered administration to be in power in my lifetime.
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Trump has a history of recommending violence, Biden does not.
I agree. Since the heckler at Independence Hall wasn't silenced or threatened, but Biden specifically called out that he had a right to heckle, That didn't happen here.
Biden is laying out the general for approach for his administration, and appointing people to carry out the details. As you get older, the minutiae can escape you, but that does not mean you are incapable of an over-arching vision. If Biden is as infirm as you suggest, it will show up at the debates.
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Hmm…
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Jack Smith’s Backup Option
Donald Trump was indicted in Florida. Could he also face charges in New Jersey?
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Jack Smith could 'sidestep' Aileen Cannon by charging Trump elsewhere: legal experts
As damning as the indictment against Donald Trump appears to be, it's possible he'll face even more serious charges in a federal court outside of Florida.The former president was charged with 37 counts in Miami related to his mishandling of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate, but...
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I disagree. The debates are too stage managed, too short, and not indicative of competent leadership. Presidential debates are only an opportunity to make content that can be used in a campaign. Answers are scripted and focus group tested. The debates tell you nothing. If you wanted to see if Biden is as infirm as I suggest then watch him on a 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast without a radio earpiece. Joe Biden in 1993 could do that but Joe Biden in 2023 cannot and so it won't happen.
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I don't disagree with any of this, but if Biden is completely reliant on cards to manage his day, how will he memorize the 30-45 minutes of verbiage he needs for the debate?
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He will drill, drill, drill, and drill. There will be some pharmaceutical help and a radio earpiece to feed him the lines he's practiced. It will go off without a hitch and his people will rave afterward at how he destroyed the doubters.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GMQLjzVGfw
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Can you show me the track record of court losses by hunter biden?
See trump has been in trouble with the law repeatedly since before hunter was even born. Hunter is an amateur criminal. Trump is a pro.
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I cannot and that is the point. I can show you the form where Hunter Biden broke firearms laws. I can show you evidence of tax crimes, Hunter's admission of guilt, apology, and subsequent payment. I can show you tons of evidence of illegal drug use, paying for prostitutes, and even evidence of sex with underage girls, but I cannot show you a track record of losses in court because for some strange reason he doesn't ever get charged for anything. All of his crimes are being "actively investigated" so no one can comment and they stay under investigation until the statute of limitation expires.
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These are Federal crimes.
These are typically state-level crimes, if they happen in the US. Can you pinpoint dates and locations for these crimes? If not, who's supposed to prosecute them?
Using drugs isn't illegal. Buying and possessing them is. Just a little "well actually" for funsies
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I'm sure you could geolocate and time some of the photos to daddy's house in Delaware where Joe stored his Corvette and classified documents, but does it really matter? Hunter Biden is protected by very powerful people in a way that no people on the political right are protected.
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You think Hunter Biden did drugs, paid for prostitutes, or had sex with underage girls in that house? Why not geolocate the crimes, if possible, to actual locations? Why does it only matter if it implicates Joe Biden? It almost seems like you're more motivated by politics than anything else. You don't care if Hunter Biden gets prosecuted unless some of the blowback is on his father, apparently.
Definitely not in red states. Both Abbot's and DeSantis's administrations would love to prosecute. Why not see if any of the videos geolocate to Texas or Florida?
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How do you use them without possessing them?
gandalfe
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I mean, do you possess your bloodstream?
One Brow
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They have to get from the outside to inside your bloodstream somehow. I suppose someone else could shoot one up if one is doing an intravenous drug, but otherwise one would have to possess them by hand or mouth.
gandalfe
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I have also been in rooms that were so filled with cannabis smoke that I got high. I assume the same is possible with other smoked substances.
So, yeah, it is possible to use drugs without possessing them.
Then again, we do talk about bodily autonomy - for example, I cannot be forced to donate an organ, or even blood. Does that count as possessing it, in the sense of ownership?