Donald is about to go through some things...

[One Brow]

I was speaking hypothetically… of course none of the US elections have ever had any shenanigans ever. They are all on the up and up… some would say squeaky clean.

Again, who's saying all elections have never had any shenanigans?

Just like this harassment of Trump is nothing political. It’s not political, it’s just his shady past and poor decisions catching up with him. Right?

Why can't it be both?

Just like I wouldn’t suspect any of Bidens past poor decisions to come out and be reported on by the media shills unless the deep state decides they don’t want him to run again.

Biden's past poor decisions have been plastered all over the media.

If they decide he shouldn’t run again we’ll start to hear more about the laptop and classified docs and Tara Reade etc…

Did that ever stop?

 

[One Brow]

Some of the topics I’ve tried to discuss are the train derailment, rail strike, nordstream explosion, anti-war rally, and so on. I’m almost every case I was personally attacked for my opinions immediately.

From my recollection, you faced much agreement on the particulars of these issues, all while calling everyone sheep for supposedly believing what no one believed. You started off insulting people who agreed with you. It's not surprising you feel you were attacked in return.

 

[Mongoose]

From my recollection, you faced much agreement on the particulars of these issues, all while calling everyone sheep for supposedly believing what no one believed. You started off insulting people who agreed with you. It's not surprising you feel you were attacked in return.

That’s ********. I’ve been labeled immediately every time I’ve posted anything here. From putin puppet to maga republican etc. I’m attacked and questioned about every single claim I make all the while being called a trump supporter or maga etc. I’ve not been allowed my opinions without being bullied and and you all know it. You all pile on and tag team anyone with a different opinion here and it’s pretty shameful and simple minded.
You all should ask yourselves if anyone in the world has an opinion outside of the mainstream democrat narrative that you would even consider listening to. What if anything are you willing to move to the middle on and why don’t you want to discuss any of that stuff? Why does trump have to dictate every aspect of your own opinions? In that sense his is a dictator over you. He already dictates what you think and believe because it must be opposite of him. 2016 is happening all over again because folks can’t move on. If you knew that if you stopped hating him so much he would fail, would you be able to stop hating him? I don’t think most of you could do it, I mean it’s basically thrillers whole identity.

 

[Bucknutz]

Not someone I don't like. Someone who is evil and bad for the county and world.
I don't like Ted cruz but don't want him silenced
I would love if someone silenced Putin though.

Who's evil and bad for the whole country and the world?

You mean anti-vaxxer'? Should we change laws and send government after them (shenanigans) because they are "no better than a murderer"? I mean they are evil and bad because some people say they are.



What about regular people who have a different political view than you?







I mean, if they don't agree with me on schools, boarder, Obamacare and other topics they are "Evil". I was told they are evil, from people who fully believe they are evil. Let's lock them up and silence them. I mean they are bad for the country and the world. And let's do it by a non ethical way. (shenanigans)




What about a wealthy business man?



He is just like Trump, he has no morals he is a bad person. Evil people might say. What should we do with him?



Let's just cap his wealth. Let's control him and his social media platform. How are we going to do it? Well he is evil and bad, so let's do it through shenanigans.

The left loves to call the right authoritarians and fascists, yet they would love to silence, take away wealth, kill people who they think are evil or bad for the world. And do it by ways that are not even lawful. So yeah, this thought process is messed up.

 

[fishonjazz]

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You mean anti-vaxxer'? Should we change laws and send government after them (shenanigans) because they are "no better than a murderer"? I mean they are evil and bad because some people say they are.



What about regular people who have a different political view than you?



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I mean, if they don't agree with me on schools, boarder, Obamacare and other topics they are "Evil". I was told they are evil, from people who fully believe they are evil. Let's lock them up and silence them. I mean they are bad for the country and the world. And let's do it by a non ethical way. (shenanigans)




What about a wealthy business man?

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He is just like Trump, he has no morals he is a bad person. Evil people might say. What should we do with him?

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Let's just cap his wealth. Let's control him and his social media platform. How are we going to do it? Well he is evil and bad, so let's do it through shenanigans.

The left loves to call the right authoritarians and fascists, yet they would love to silence, take away wealth, kill people who they think are evil or bad for the world. And do it by ways that are not even lawful. So yeah, this thought process is messed up.

You brought up a bunch of crap that I wasn't speaking about so I will reiterate for you.
I think trump should get in trouble for all the laws he breaks instead of getting away with it. Agree to disagree.
Sadly trump is the opposite of silenced btw. He loud as ****.

 

[fishonjazz]

You all should ask yourselves if anyone in the world has an opinion outside of the mainstream democrat narrative that you would even consider listening to.

I think immigration sucks and needs to be lessened big time. I wasn't even against the border wall. Just thought it was wrong for trump to lie to us and tell us mexico would pay for when we were going to have to pay for it all along and i questioned the effectiveness of the wall. I think that biological males shouldn't participate in female sports. I think student debt shouldn't be cancelled. I dont think anyone should get reperations. I recently purchased a brand new gas guzzling vehicle. I never blamed trump for the pandemic and not shutting things down. I didn't think there were any good options and shutting things down could just make things worse. I did blame him for the stupid crap that came out of his mouth and for lying to us about the pandemic though. I could go on. Does that sound like the mainstream democratic narrative?

I mostly just comment on how bad trump sucks and then people like you label me a leftist, democrat loving, biden loving, socialist, marxist etc etc. (just kidding. I dont really know what people like you label me and dont really care anyway. I dont claim to be a victim simply cause you disagree with how I feel about trump)

 

[Bucknutz]

You brought up a bunch of crap that I wasn't speaking about so I will reiterate for you.

The conversation:

You stating that you are fine with legal and political shenanigans to silence someone as ****** as trump. Meaning you're good with government silencing citizens because you think they are ******.

Next response:

It changed from "******" people to "evil and bad" people. And you're still fine with having government doing shenanigans to silence these people.

Which I responded in the long post. You are talking about the crap I brought up. Just because you feel someone is evil, doesn't give the government the right to use unethical force to silence one of their citizens. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I think trump should get in trouble for all the laws he breaks instead of getting away with it. Agree to disagree.

Yes I agree. Through the legal process, not government shenanigans.

Sadly trump is the opposite of silenced btw. He loud as ****.

And it's his right. But it's our right to keep him out of office through the election. It's our right not to watch him on CNN town halls. It's our right not to get on truth social and see his postings. It's our right not to follow his followers on social media and through the tv, radio and podcasts. It's your right to personally silence him through the content you consume. He can be pretty silent to you if you want him to be.

 

[Mongoose]

I think immigration sucks and needs to be lessened big time. I wasn't even against the border wall. Just thought it was wrong for trump to lie to us and tell us mexico would pay for when we were going to have to pay for it all along and i questioned the effectiveness of the wall. I think that biological males shouldn't participate in female sports. I think student debt shouldn't be cancelled. I dont think anyone should get reperations. I recently purchased a brand new gas guzzling vehicle. I never blamed trump for the pandemic and not shutting things down. I didn't think there were any good options and shutting things down could just make things worse. I did blame him for the stupid crap that came out of his mouth and for lying to us about the pandemic though. I could go on. Does that sound like the mainstream democratic narrative?

I mostly just comment on how bad trump sucks and then people like you label me a leftist, democrat loving, biden loving, socialist, marxist etc etc. (just kidding. I dont really know what people like you label me and dont really care anyway. I dont claim to be a victim simply cause you disagree with how I feel about trump)

Honestly I think the main stream democrat narrative would be pretty satisfied with these issues outside of the trans stance. Especially considering your perceived stance on censorship and the war. I do think some democrat politicians are starting to be concerned about the border.

Why do you feel student debt should not be forgiven? Do you know that student loans won’t even be cleared if you file bankruptcy? What about already existing forgiveness programs are those okay or should those not exist? Although I think Higher Ed currently has significant problems I think free education is one of the best things we could do for our society. Even if it failed I think the side effects of having a more educated population would be minimal. Mostly I think taxes are better spent on projects like free education for Americans vs the destruction of Ukraine and a proxy war with Russia. Or war with Syria, Afghanistan, and building and maintaining 700 military bases all over the world at the cost of nearly 1 trillion every year.

I’m also sick and tired of having to see and donate to a go fund me every time someone I know or love has to have surgery or gets sick because our healthcare system is ****. I see it all the time from people with great jobs and “great” healthcare that need extra donations because they can’t afford cancer treatments or surgery. Meanwhile folks in France are striking because the government wants to up the retirement age to 64. These are folks that already have free healthcare, dental, pensions, better wages, and unions. The retirement age is already 67 here and the life expectancy is going down. I want to see more unions form and I want to see less taxes. At the very least we need less money spent on policing and warmongering the entire world. Americans are getting ****ed and all people can talk about are some guys small hands or some other guys dementia and other stupid ****.

 

[One Brow]

That’s ********. I’ve been labeled immediately every time I’ve posted anything here.

We all get labeled, and we all label others. You've done more than your fair share of labeling.

However, I checked your posting history, and it seems your first foray into GD was this. The first poster to respond was TheThriller, and he is apt to categorize and label. So I understand why you feel you were instantly attacked. By contrast, my response was this, free of any personal attacks. We continued on for a few posts, quite pleasantly.

Over the next few pages, AFAICT, exactly one poster (mentioned above) labeled you. You then took that and said "everyone" was labeling you. It wasn't everyone, just one guy.

From putin puppet to maga republican etc. I’m attacked and questioned about every single claim I make all the while being called a trump supporter or maga etc. I’ve not been allowed my opinions without being bullied and and you all know it. You all pile on and tag team anyone with a different opinion here and it’s pretty shameful and simple minded.

Perhaps you should take your frustrations directly to the poster responsible, and stop blaming everyone else.

I've been where you are, in this very forum. Fifteen or so years ago, I felt as though there were very few people that agreed with me, and I argued with every single poster that was here back then that you would now consider on my side. It takes a psychological toll, I don't know if I could handle that today.

You all should ask yourselves if anyone in the world has an opinion outside of the mainstream democrat narrative that you would even consider listening to. What if anything are you willing to move to the middle on and why don’t you want to discuss any of that stuff?

Democrats are in the middle. I'd like to move further left. I hear the Green party has abandoned their anti-vax rhetoric, if that's true, I'll probably start voting Green.

Why does trump have to dictate every aspect of your own opinions? In that sense his is a dictator over you. He already dictates what you think and believe because it must be opposite of him.

I'll stop thinking of Trump when another person becomes the Republican nominee.

I don’t think most of you could do it, I mean it’s basically thrillers whole identity.

TheThriller hasn't changed much in the last 10 years, long before Trump came on the scene.

 

[One Brow]

Honestly I think the main stream democrat narrative would be pretty satisfied with these issues outside of the trans stance. Especially considering your perceived stance on censorship and the war. I do think some democrat politicians are starting to be concerned about the border.

Why do you feel student debt should not be forgiven? Do you know that student loans won’t even be cleared if you file bankruptcy? What about already existing forgiveness programs are those okay or should those not exist? Although I think Higher Ed currently has significant problems I think free education is one of the best things we could do for our society. Even if it failed I think the side effects of having a more educated population would be minimal. Mostly I think taxes are better spent on projects like free education for Americans vs the destruction of Ukraine and a proxy war with Russia. Or war with Syria, Afghanistan, and building and maintaining 700 military bases all over the world at the cost of nearly 1 trillion every year.

I’m also sick and tired of having to see and donate to a go fund me every time someone I know or love has to have surgery or gets sick because our healthcare system is ****. I see it all the time from people with great jobs and “great” healthcare that need extra donations because they can’t afford cancer treatments or surgery. Meanwhile folks in France are striking because the government wants to up the retirement age to 64. These are folks that already have free healthcare, dental, pensions, better wages, and unions. The retirement age is already 67 here and the life expectancy is going down. I want to see more unions form and I want to see less taxes. At the very least we need less money spent on policing and warmongering the entire world. Americans are getting ****ed and all people can talk about are some guys small hands or some other guys dementia and other stupid ****.

I disagree on helping Ukraine (we are risking no US lives, and the true spending level is so much lower because most of the help we're giving them is coming from stiff near it's expiration date), but otherwise I agree with this post.

 

[fishonjazz]

The conversation:
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You stating that you are fine with legal and political shenanigans to silence someone as ****** as trump. Meaning you're good with government silencing citizens because you think they are ******.

Next response:
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It changed from "******" people to "evil and bad" people. And you're still fine with having government doing shenanigans to silence these people.

Which I responded in the long post. You are talking about the crap I brought up. Just because you feel someone is evil, doesn't give the government the right to use unethical force to silence one of their citizens. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.


Yes I agree. Through the legal process, not government shenanigans.


And it's his right. But it's our right to keep him out of office through the election. It's our right not to watch him on CNN town halls. It's our right not to get on truth social and see his postings. It's our right not to follow his followers on social media and through the tv, radio and podcasts. It's your right to personally silence him through the content you consume. He can be pretty silent to you if you want him to be.

Ya we should remove word like "someone" or "evil and bad" etc etc.
Just use the word trump. Im good with him being silenced with shenanigans or whatever. Poor fella would still be rich and do just fine even if he was silenced. The country and world would be better off though.

 

[fishonjazz]

Especially considering your perceived stance on censorship and the war

What do you think my stance is on war and why?
Fyi I think war sucks and never want war to exist. I would be super stoked if Russia never invaded ukraine and would also be super stoked if they would pack up and go back to russia right now. Not sure if that makes me a war monger to you or not but those are my thoughts.