Donald is about to go through some things...

[Al-O-Meter]

Was the DOJ going after participants in the Jan 6 riots weaponization?

Not at all. That was their job. They did their job. I do think many defendant's rights to a speedy trial were violated, but on the whole I have no quarrel with the prosecutions of those criminals and believe it to have been a far better way to handle it than to have had the military come in to start putting down protesters using lethal force.

Futhermore, I've gone on record believing that Trump should be prosecuted.

Not all parts of the DOJ are corrupt, but the parts that use political oppo research as the foundation for investigation, hide plea agreements, drag feet in filing charges until the statute of limitation expires, and utilize outside-to-box legal theory to prosecute political opponents are things I take issue with.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yes it is, and no it isn't. The DOJ is supposed to investigate crimes, gather evidence, and prosecute the party the evidence shows committed the crime. You are 100% on point when you characterized this as "the DOJ going after Trump". It is a corruption of the system for the system to go after anyone, for the focus to be on the person to find something in the legal code they can use. to prosecute.

The Democrats will not be in control of the DOJ forever. The Republicans are not better human beings. If the Democrat controlled DOJ is open about establishing a precedent of secret plea deals hidden in diversion agreements to garner immunity to their friends while hand-picking judges to preside over whatever political operatives could come up with to imprison their political opponents then the Republicans will play be those rules too. That is a very dark path.

Wait, if you know about these secret plea deals hidden in diversion agreements then how exactly are they secret?

Im still gonna need some proof of this weaponization of the DOJ. Like you do have a recording of merrick garland on a phone call with a judge where he questions how much the judge hates trump and how bad the judge wants to send trump to prison and the judge response not being an adequate amount of hate for trump and merrick garland saying that the judge will not get a chance to try this case due to a lack of hate for trump or something? Provide me with that "perfect" phone call and I will quickly jump to your side on this. Basically everything you have provided so far is hearsay or circumstantial at best. Mostly its just your biased opinion.

 

[One Brow]

Apologies are never accepted.

I do not see the relevance of this.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Wait, if you know about these secret plea deals hidden in diversion agreements then how exactly are they secret?

Because the judge in the case caught the unusual language, which she believed was unconstitutional, and directly asked the prosecution on the record what they were doing. The prosecution immediately retreated from the secret deal at which point Hunter Biden's lawyers said they were ripping up the deal to help the prosecutors to not be publicly embarrassed. If not for that judge, no one would have known how they did it, only that Hunter Biden would have escaped with probation for a set of crimes that would land anyone else in prison for decades and gained almost total immunity for any crime that may have been committed in that period of time.

Basically everything you have provided so far is hearsay or circumstantial at best. Mostly its just your biased opinion.

My opinion, and the judges, and much of the media biased left, right, and center.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/politics/takeaways-hunter-biden-plea-hearing/index.html

But you are in good company wanting to see the evidence. This bit of corruption was so obvious that now oversight committees are preparing to send out subpoenas.

House Republicans demand answers from DOJ on Hunter Biden plea agreement

A letter signed by three committee chairmen called on Attorney General Merrick Garland to answer their questions about the derailed plea deal by Aug. 14.

www.nbcnews.com

It was immediately after the Hunter Biden plea deal fell apart that Trump's new charges along with Hunter Biden's former coworker being named as the judge to oversee Trump's prosecution happened. It is a game of DOJ corruption to misdirect from other DOJ corruption.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I do not see the relevance of this.

At the risk of getting banned again, I do not equate your situation to the situation of those who are not you. I do think a parent's job is to imbue life skills into their kids. I am doing my best to do that with my own kid and I recognize that you have done that as well. I do think you have done a good job as a parent. While I never said that you had engaged in the types of behaviors that were the subject of the film being discussed, I can see how my words could have been interpreted in a way that could imply as such. For that, I apologize to you for any hurt that caused.

 

[fishonjazz]

Because the judge in the case caught the unusual language, which she believed was unconstitutional, and directly asked the prosecution on the record what they were doing. The prosecution immediately retreated from the secret deal at which point Hunter Biden's lawyers said they were ripping up the deal to help the prosecutors to not be publicly embarrassed. If not for that judge, no one would have known how they did it, only that Hunter Biden would have escaped with probation for a set of crimes that would land anyone else in prison for decades and gained almost total immunity for any crime that may have been committed in that period of time.

My opinion, and the judges, and much of the media biased left, right, and center.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/politics/takeaways-hunter-biden-plea-hearing/index.html

But you are in good company wanting to see the evidence. This bit of corruption was so obvious that now oversight committees are preparing to send out subpoenas.

House Republicans demand answers from DOJ on Hunter Biden plea agreement

A letter signed by three committee chairmen called on Attorney General Merrick Garland to answer their questions about the derailed plea deal by Aug. 14.

www.nbcnews.com

It was immediately after the Hunter Biden plea deal fell apart that Trump's new charges along with Hunter Biden's former coworker being named as the judge to oversee Trump's prosecution happened. It is a game of DOJ corruption to misdirect from other DOJ corruption.

Ya this is of course how you see it. I listened to a legal expert on ksl 1160 radio who said that the hunter plea deal would have been accepted if not for political bias. That a plea deal like the one he had set up is typical. What was atypical was the fact that the judge didn't accept the plea deal. Because the justice system is being weaponized against kids of prominent democrats of course. Thats the only explanation.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I listened to a legal expert on ksl 1160 radio who said that the hunter plea deal would have been accepted if not for political bias.

You were listening to a democrat shill. The deal wasn't rejected. Hunter Biden's legal team withdrew from it. Do you honestly believe Hunter Biden's own lawyers are politically biased against Hunter?

 

[fishonjazz]

You were listening to a democrat shill. The deal wasn't rejected. Hunter Biden's legal team withdrew from it. Do you honestly believe Hunter Biden's own lawyers are politically biased against Hunter?

Nope the judge rejected the plea deal. The person I was listening to is part of MAGA. The DOJ is rigged against democrats.

 

[fishonjazz]

From the New York Post after googling: Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) and Ways and Means Chairman Jason Smith (R-Mo.) signed the letter, which cites the reaction of US District Judge Maryellen Noreika, who rejected the agreement last week.

US district judge maryellen noreika rejected the agreement last week.

 

[fishonjazz]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyk4q37oMSc

Judge refuses to accept Hunter Biden’s plea deal​

 

[fishonjazz]

Defense attorney explains why judge refused Hunter Biden's plea deal

Criminal defense attorney Amato Sanita said some issues came up involving immunity and how far back we can go to continue or discontinue investigating Hunter Biden.

www.cbsnews.com

Defense attorney explains why judge refused Hunter Biden's plea deal​

 

[fishonjazz]

Three Republican-led House committees launched an inquiry Monday into first son Hunter Biden’s botched probation-only plea deal, which dramatically fell apart last Wednesday under scrutiny from a Delaware federal judge after critics denounced it as a “slap on the wrist.”