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Whoa whoa whoa.
Slow down there!
Trump is white and rich. When has a white rich guy in America ever gotten a fair shake in our judicial system??? /s
Slow down there!
Trump is white and rich. When has a white rich guy in America ever gotten a fair shake in our judicial system??? /s
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Reposting for no particular reason…
I just want to invite some of my pro Trump friends on this website to be vulnerable for a minute. I’m guessing most of you are just bored and are looking to “feel something.” Grievance isn’t it. There will always be something to be angry about. There will always be someone who has it better. This feeling of inferiority you have towards those with college degrees, living in cities,LGBTs, Mormons, Muslims, etc etc etc etc is not healthy. Find a hobby, serve in a church, read some books, or be grateful for the families you have. Go outside and do something different. Go talk to real Americans outside of your online community. I think you’ll find that a) real Americans find Trump’s behavior (behavior you’re currently defending) to be appalling b) real Americans are actually pretty diverse, cool, and awesome. Our cities are awesome, the food delicious, and music entertaining. Some might not be great for you to live in full time. But I’ve yet to find an American city that wasn’t cool to visit.
For those of you who are legitimately going through stuff, there’s no shame in going to therapy. There are a lot of good therapists out there. Is your middle age not what you expected? Is your marriage not going well? Do you feel lonely? Finding love and community through the internet is not healthy. Find it through real people and real medicine (counseling and therapy). You don’t have to live angry and defending Trump, a give who doesn’t actually give a **** about you, 24/7
Seriously guys, no need to tag me a million times in one post as a cry for help. I am not the reason why you’re unhappy in life and support Trump. Just go get help now. It’ll make a real difference in the long term. I wish you the best.
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Al-O-Meter
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- Trump cheated on his wife with a porn star, which isn't a crime.
- Trump sought a non-disclosure agreement, which isn't a crime.
- Trump entered an arguably incorrect description of the financial transactions on a form that was for his use only.
- New York flooded all Trump Organizations with search warrants to see if they could find anything they could claim was a crime and they found this internal-use form.
- Because this internal-use form was an official corporate document, the incorrect descriptions could be a misdemeanor but they were so old the statute of limitations had expired.
- New York elevated the misdemeanor to a felony to get around the statute of limitations by claiming it was fraud, but it was an internal use document that no one was ever going to see so no one was being defrauded, *AND* for a thing to be fraud it has to be in an effort to facilitate a crime.
- There was no one being defrauded and there was no facilitating a crime. Cheating on your wife isn't a crime and seeking a non-disclosure agreement isn't a crime. New York claimed the crime was a violation of campaign finance law, but that is a Federal crime for which Trump has to be considered innocent because he's never been convicted of it or even prosecuted for it. There was no crime being covered up and no one to see the cover up.
- Lastly, this was an intention crime which means Trump had to intend to illegally defraud someone. Even if there was some other crime being pursued and someone being deceived about it, if Trump had believed he lawyer was doing what he could within the law then even that wouldn't be a crime. Alvin Bragg tried to get Cohen to connect those dots and Cohen got caught lying on the stand.
That the case is so deficient didn't matter. All that mattered was finding the right judge and holding the trial in a district hostile to Trump. It used to be said that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Now, in 2024, a prosecutor can get a regular jury to convict a ham sandwich if he picks the venue. It is not unfair to see that as a corruption in our system of justice.
The Horrendous Trump Verdict | National Review
Alvin Bragg has made history — by becoming the first prosecutor in the history of the country to abuse his office in hopes of damaging an opposition presidential candidate.
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Al-O-Meter
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You, the person? No, of course not but allegorical you absolutely is. You were not wrong when you wrote "he is their retribution against perceived enemies". We find agreement in your insight there. Every broad-brush insult allegorical you throws out there causes Trump to rise in the polls.
- Trump cheated on his wife with a porn star, which isn't a crime.
- Trump sought a non-disclosure agreement, which isn't a crime.
- Trump entered an arguably incorrect description of the financial transactions on a form that was for his use only.
- New York flooded all Trump Organizations with search warrants to see if they could find anything they could claim was a crime and they found this internal-use form.
- Because this internal-use form was an official corporate document, the incorrect descriptions could be a misdemeanor but they were so old the statute of limitations had expired.
- New York elevated the misdemeanor to a felony to get around the statute of limitations by claiming it was fraud, but it was an internal use document that no one was ever going to see so no one was being defrauded, *AND* for a thing to be fraud it has to be in an effort to facilitate a crime.
- There was no one being defrauded and there was no facilitating a crime. Cheating on your wife isn't a crime and seeking a non-disclosure agreement isn't a crime. New York claimed the crime was a violation of campaign finance law, but that is a Federal crime for which Trump has to be considered innocent because he's never been convicted of it or even prosecuted for it. There was no crime being covered up and no one to see the cover up.
- Lastly, this was an intention crime which means Trump had to intend to illegally defraud someone. Even if there was some other crime being pursued and someone being deceived about it, if Trump had believed he lawyer was doing what he could within the law then even that wouldn't be a crime. Alvin Bragg tried to get Cohen to connect those dots and Cohen got caught lying on the stand.
That the case is so deficient didn't matter. All that mattered was finding the right judge and holding the trial in a district hostile to Trump. It used to be said that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Now, in 2024, a prosecutor can get a regular jury to convict a ham sandwich if he picks the venue. It is not unfair to see that as a corruption in our system of justice.
The Horrendous Trump Verdict | National Review
Alvin Bragg has made history — by becoming the first prosecutor in the history of the country to abuse his office in hopes of damaging an opposition presidential candidate.
Again, ****ing snowflakes can't handle the truth and only pretend to support law and order. Enough with the crying and excuses. If The Rapist wanted to remain off the rap sheet he shouldn't have been such a law breaking slimeball.
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- Trump cheated on his wife with a porn star, which isn't a crime.
- Trump sought a non-disclosure agreement, which isn't a crime.
- Trump entered an arguably incorrect description of the financial transactions on a form that was for his use only.
- New York flooded all Trump Organizations with search warrants to see if they could find anything they could claim was a crime and they found this internal-use form.
- Because this internal-use form was an official corporate document, the incorrect descriptions could be a misdemeanor but they were so old the statute of limitations had expired.
- New York elevated the misdemeanor to a felony to get around the statute of limitations by claiming it was fraud, but it was an internal use document that no one was ever going to see so no one was being defrauded, *AND* for a thing to be fraud it has to be in an effort to facilitate a crime.
- There was no one being defrauded and there was no facilitating a crime. Cheating on your wife isn't a crime and seeking a non-disclosure agreement isn't a crime. New York claimed the crime was a violation of campaign finance law, but that is a Federal crime for which Trump has to be considered innocent because he's never been convicted of it or even prosecuted for it. There was no crime being covered up and no one to see the cover up.
- Lastly, this was an intention crime which means Trump had to intend to illegally defraud someone. Even if there was some other crime being pursued and someone being deceived about it, if Trump had believed he lawyer was doing what he could within the law then even that wouldn't be a crime. Alvin Bragg tried to get Cohen to connect those dots and Cohen got caught lying on the stand.
That the case is so deficient didn't matter. All that mattered was finding the right judge and holding the trial in a district hostile to Trump. It used to be said that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Now, in 2024, a prosecutor can get a regular jury to convict a ham sandwich if he picks the venue. It is not unfair to see that as a corruption in our system of justice.
The Horrendous Trump Verdict | National Review
Alvin Bragg has made history — by becoming the first prosecutor in the history of the country to abuse his office in hopes of damaging an opposition presidential candidate.
Thanks for the response. I'll reiterate that I am being genuine in trying to understand this. Specifically point 6 is interesting and troublesome if true. Do you believe the jurors were biased, coerced/manipulated by the prosecution or both? These were people that both prosecution and defense were satisfied as being impartial. You mentioned the judge was, "the right judge", is there any evidence of the judge having any bias against Trump?
Personally I still trust that the people who were presented all of the evidence over many days and ended up with a unanimous decision.
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Perceived being the key word and the factor you're not really acknowledging. Most grievances by Trump supporters fall into one of the three categories. The biggest one is perceived, followed by irrational, followed by real ones they don't want to see any realistic solutions to.
I get being upset, we're all irrational sometimes, but to decide that the best response to that is to do stupid things is...well, stupid.
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Great post. We just need to remember that all are created equal, but some are more equal than others.
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They don't like invitations. I invited everyone to lunch on my dime and got like 3 responses, all non-Trumpers. No one wants to reach across the aisle. Might as well ask for a full reach-around and rim job.
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It's because he has become a quasi-religious figure. It's very tough to get people to disconnect from their religion, regardless of how ****ed up it is. Some even drink the Kool-aid and feed it to their children. This cult is no different.
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May 31 - Supporters of former President Donald Trump, enraged by his conviction on 34 felony counts by a New York jury, flooded pro-Trump websites with calls for riots, revolution and violent retribution.
After Trump became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, his supporters responded with dozens of violent online posts, according to a Reuters review of comments on three Trump-aligned websites: the former president's own Truth Social platform, Patriots.Win and the Gateway Pundit.
Some called for attacks on jurors, the execution of the judge, Justice Juan Merchan, or outright civil war and armed insurrection.
“Someone in NY with nothing to lose needs to take care of Merchan,” wrote one commentator on Patriots.Win. “Hopefully he gets met with illegals with a machete,” the post said in reference to illegal immigrants.
On Gateway Pundit, one poster suggested shooting liberals after the verdict. “Time to start capping some leftys,” said the post. “This cannot be fixed by voting."…..
……Jacob Ware, a co-author of the book “God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America”, said the violent language used by Trump’s followers was testament to the former president’s “ironclad ability to mobilize more extreme supporters to action, both at the ballot box and through violence.”
“Until and unless he accepts the process, the extremist reaction to his legal troubles will be militant,” said Ware, a research fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.
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Just watched his post conviction press conference (well most of it. I couldn't make it all the way through)
So much useless nonsensical irrelevant ranting.
He definitely has a new favorite word. Conflicted. He uses it as often as possible lately. So cute that he is still learning about new words this late in his life.
Nothing he loves more than hyperbolic extreme adjectives though. Most, biggest, best, worst, longest, hardest, meanest, etc etc etc.
He is such a caricature. Perfect word to describe him. A picture, description, or imitation of a person in which certain striking characteristics are exaggerated in order to create a comic or grotesque effect. He tries so hard to keep up his public persona.
Oh and he loves to play the imaginary accordion while speaking. It's hilarious
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So much useless nonsensical irrelevant ranting.
He definitely has a new favorite word. Conflicted. He uses it as often as possible lately. So cute that he is still learning about new words this late in his life.
Nothing he loves more than hyperbolic extreme adjectives though. Most, biggest, best, worst, longest, hardest, meanest, etc etc etc.
He is such a caricature. Perfect word to describe him. A picture, description, or imitation of a person in which certain striking characteristics are exaggerated in order to create a comic or grotesque effect. He tries so hard to keep up his public persona.
Oh and he loves to play the imaginary accordion while speaking. It's hilarious
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