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Al-O-Meter said:
Trump may have his faults but he did a far better job of raising his family than did Joe Biden, who has one son dead, the other son is a drug addict, and Joe used to shower inappropriately with his teenage daughter. According to the data, those who prioritize family are supporting Trump, and it isn't close.
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So you're saying Biden did a poor job of raising a family as evidenced by his son dying? The son who died of brain cancer? I'm surprised you didn't mention his daughter who died too. In a car accident. Terrible parenting.
 
str8line said:
So you're saying Biden did a poor job of raising a family as evidenced by his son dying? The son who died of brain cancer? I'm surprised you didn't mention his daughter who died too. In a car accident. Terrible parenting.
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A few years ago I said that if you’re still supporting Trump, you’re either dumb as rocks or a ****** person. That is proven accurate on a daily basis here.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
No. We've known for centuries that democracy is a dumb idea always doomed to violent failure. That is why it was limited in the United States government to only the Legislative Branch. It is good for the people to have a voice but really, really, truly awful for the people to have the ultimate say.
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Do you have any data that suggests that the outcomes of Democracy are worse than the alternative, notably autocracy/ tyranny?
 
The Thriller said:
A few years ago I said that if you’re still supporting Trump, you’re either dumb as rocks or a ****** person. That is proven accurate on a daily basis here.
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Third option: troll.
 
str8line said:
Oh yeah, the party of family values who have as their orange God a raping, ***** grabbing, three time married philanderer who cheats with a porn star while his third wife(mail order) is pregnant. What were you saying about self-centered?
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Also, weird to say someone is self centered because they don't want marriage and kids.

I have a friend who is single with no kids that is extremely charitable. Does for others way more than all the married with kids folks that I know

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silesian said:
Do you have any data that suggests that the outcomes of Democracy are worse than the alternative, notably autocracy/ tyranny?
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Democracy isn't an alternative to tyranny.

“Conceived as the foundation of liberty, modern democracy paves the way for tyranny. Born for the purpose of standing as a bulwark against Power, it ends by providing Power with the finest soil it has ever had in which to spread itself over the social field.”
-Bertrand de Jouvenel from On Power 1945

This is a truth that has been recognized for millennia.

"does not tyranny spring from democracy"
-Plato 380 BCE

Democracy is power in the hands of people, and people in power get progressively more tyrannical in their efforts to hold on to power. The genius of the American system was to put power in the hands of a piece of paper instead of people. Those who want democracy above all want power to belong to anyone who can harness the collective will of the citizens directly by appealing to their emotions rather than using evidence and facts to change their minds.

“Whenever he sensed that arrogance was making them more confident than the situation merited, he would say something to strike fear into their hearts; and when on the other hand he saw them fearful without good reason, he restored their confidence again. So it came about that what was in name a democracy was in practice government by the foremost man.”
-Thucydides from The History of the Peloponnesian War 431 BCE

Do I have data? Sure. See the entire history of the world versus America and it's constitutional republic 1776 to now. Those complaining about the existence of Trump while at the same time wanting more democracy are morons.
 
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