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Howard said:
He refuses to drop out.

If Carson, Rubio, and Cruz would drop, Kasich could beat Trump.
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Yeah I like Kasich the most out of that group if I'm perfectly honest with you. Not sure he's savvy enough to make it very far, but he seems like a straight shooter and the most real and trustworthy guy there. His policies also seem very sensible.
 
This is by no means a political statement or endorsement of any kind, whatsoever! Just passing on an observation from a New York professor who also correctly predicted that the Jets would win Super Bowl III, and the Giants would upset the 18-0 Patriots!

The probability of a Trump win is “almost ‘take it to the bank,’ ” he said.....using his formula going back to 1912, it worked for every one — with the exception of 1960, when John F. Kennedy narrowly defeated Richard Nixon.

He's also predicts the following:
Trump vs. the Pope? Trump wins!
Trump vs. China? Trump wins!
Trump vs. Russia? Trump wins!
Trump vs. Golden State? Trump wins!
Trump vs. Ditka? .....Ditka wins!


https://nypost.com/2016/02/25/get-ready-for-president-trump-says-election-whiz-whos-scary-accurate/
 
carolinajazz said:
This is by no means a political statement or endorsement of any kind, whatsoever! Just passing on an observation from a New York professor who also correctly predicted that the Jets would win Super Bowl III, and the Giants would upset the 18-0 Patriots!

The probability of a Trump win is “almost ‘take it to the bank,’ ” he said.....using his formula going back to 1912, it worked for every one — with the exception of 1960, when John F. Kennedy narrowly defeated Richard Nixon.

He's also predicts the following:
Trump vs. the Pope? Trump wins!
Trump vs. China? Trump wins!
Trump vs. Russia? Trump wins!
Trump vs. Golden State? Trump wins!
Trump vs. Ditka? .....Ditka wins!


https://nypost.com/2016/02/25/get-ready-for-president-trump-says-election-whiz-whos-scary-accurate/
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Trump vs My Dicka

My Dicka wins...every time.
 
My concern was very poorly worded. It's not a question of Americans not being intelligent enough to avoid electing Trump. It's a question of not understanding history well enough to avoid it. Not enough people recognize a demagogue when they see one, or recognize how such individuals take advantage of people's fears and anxieties to get elected. It's the old adage about repeating history if you don't understand history. But it does seem to be a perfect storm favoring Trump in any event. And nobody seems to play people and play the media better then he does.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
A Trump victory looks inevitable to me as well. His enormous self-confidence seems to steam roll any problem, and it absolutely intimidates his competition. Jeb Bush was thought to be the clear front runner in the GOP. Trump set sites on him as the first target and annihilated him.

Trump has the amazing ability to make a huge misstatement (one so big it would kill any other candidacy), and then turn it to his advantage. He has a grasp of social media and media in general that is far beyond any of the other candidates, and that obviously matters. He turns haters to his advantage, he turns spending the least amount of money to his advantage, he turns the ads attacking him to his advantage, it goes on and on.

I fear Trump as president because he changes his position and tone whenever he feels like it. It is obvious that he will do this as president as well. The only thing that has me holding out hope is that he might actually have some core principles behind all of this (though I'm not certain), and if he does I cannot imagine a president who could be more effective at getting his agenda put into place as Trump.

Anybody who thinks Clinton or Sanders stands a chance against this guy is not paying attention to what he has accomplished so far. Nearly everyone thought his candidacy was a joke at first, but it has become crystal clear that this is no joke. He is spending the least of any republican candidate yet getting by far the biggest results. He's getting the most publicity by a huge margin. Something terrible about him would have to come out in order to stop this freight train, but even if it did there is still a very high likelihood that he would turn it to his advantage.
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Sanders might be too far to the left; does not help that he calls himself a socialist. And Clinton is just way too unlikable to many Americans. Combine this with too few Americans understanding the lessons of history; understanding what Jefferson meant when he said a functioning democracy like ours requires an educated electorate(i.e., recognize a demagogue when he appears in your midst), and we may see this actually take place. If you don't know history, you are bound to repeat it. Not saying Trump is the next Hitler, but he is a demagogue taking advantage of great anxiety/fear in a time of great social/cultural change, in order to rise to power. I do not trust anyone who depends on fear, anger, and anxiety to rise to power. Understand history or be doomed to repeat it. But not enough Americans are able to see clearly what is happening here. Trump is the most fascist-like hate monger we have ever have come this close. And I fear he is unstoppable right now.....

By seemingly turning the nominating process into the format of Reality TV, it seems to allow him to say virtually anything and energize his supporters regardless of those statements. If TV's "Survivor" is no holds barred, so too is the nominating process. He can lower the dialog to the point of referring to an opponent as a *****, and his supporters are ecstatic, not revolted. I know it's a contact sport, but the whole process is dragged into the gutter. Not to mention the irresponsible manner in which he actually encourages violence in his supporters. Black man gets roughed up during a rally, and his response is maybe the guy had it coming? Are you kidding me, Trump, you don't think that encourages the nutjobs in our society?
 
Red said:
Sanders might be too far to the left; does not help that he calls himself a socialist. And Clinton is just way too unlikable to many Americans. Combine this with too few Americans understanding the lessons of history; understanding what Jefferson meant when he said a functioning democracy like ours requires an educated electorate(i.e., recognize a demagogue when he appears in your midst), and we may see this actually take place. If you don't know history, you are bound to repeat it. Not saying Trump is the next Hitler, but he is a demagogue taking advantage of great anxiety/fear in a time of great social/cultural change, in order to rise to power. I do not trust anyone who depends on fear, anger, and anxiety to rise to power. Understand history or be doomed to repeat it. But not enough Americans are able to see clearly what is happening here. Trump is the most fascist-like hate monger we have ever have come this close. And I fear he is unstoppable right now.....

By seemingly turning the nominating process into the format of Reality TV, it seems to allow him to say virtually anything and energize his supporters regardless of those statements. If TV's "Survivor" is no holds barred, so too is the nominating process. He can lower the dialog to the point of referring to an opponent as a *****, and his supporters are ecstatic, not revolted. I know it's a contact sport, but the whole process is dragged into the gutter. Not to mention the irresponsible manner in which he actually encourages violence in his supporters. Black man gets roughed up during a rally, and his response is maybe the guy had it coming? Are you kidding me, Trump, you don't think that encourages the nutjobs in our society?
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Don't worry, he's working out the system as it currently stands just to get elected. Once elected President the Jefferson in him will come out and troll the hell out of the establishment.

#WishfulThinking
 
Jamezz said:
Don't worry, he's working out the system as it currently stands just to get elected. Once elected President the Jefferson in him will come out and troll the hell out of the establishment.

#WishfulThinking
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Well, ya know, in an interview with NBC Nightly News anchor, Lester Holt, he did say he isn't going to talk or behave the way he is now, once he is elected. That he will somehow become more Presidential in his demeanor. Yet, just this week, he stated he wanted to punch a protestor in the face:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-protester-id-like-to-punch-him-in-the-face/

And, of course, the crowd cheered wildly. We all know by now his campaign catch phrase of "make America great again". Yet, clearly, right now he irresponsibly ratchets up the hatred the two Americas have for each other. We've had 8 years of gridlock in Washington, and lots and lots and lots of Americans are fearful and resentful of what they see as the direction of the nation. We have the culture wars, which in turn are poisoning the political wars. Surely, no good can come of causing more hatred and anger between and among Americans. This is simply not healthy for the body politic. We don't need people making every effort to divide Americans more then they are already. "Make America great again". For Trump, it really seems to be "make America hate more then ever." The party not in power is the loyal opposition. Not the blood enemy that needs to be roughed up, that needs to be punched in the face. This is not how we heal this country.

Your wishful thinking may be spot on. But, in the meantime, he is helping to build up the reserve of anger and resentment some feel. What a crossroads in our history the election of 2016 surely will be. We just cannot go on stoking fear, anger, and resentment to such a degree and somehow expect to be one nation again.
 
Red said:
Well, ya know, in an interview with NBC Nightly News anchor, Lester Holt, he did say he isn't going to talk or behave the way he is now, once he is elected. That he will somehow become more Presidential in his demeanor. Yet, just this week, he stated he wanted to punch a protestor in the face:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-protester-id-like-to-punch-him-in-the-face/

And, of course, the crowd cheered wildly. We all know by now his campaign catch phrase of "make America great again". Yet, clearly, right now he irresponsibly ratchets up the hatred the two Americas have for each other. We've had 8 years of gridlock in Washington, and lots and lots and lots of Americans are fearful and resentful of what they see as the direction of the nation. We have the culture wars, which in turn are poisoning the political wars. Surely, no good can come of causing more hatred and anger between and among Americans. This is simply not healthy for the body politic. We don't need people making every effort to divide Americans more then they are already. "Make America great again". For Trump, it really seems to be "make America hate more then ever." The party not in power is the loyal opposition. Not the blood enemy that needs to be roughed up, that needs to be punched in the face. This is not how we heal this country.

Your wishful thinking may be spot on. But, in the meantime, he is helping to build up the reserve of anger and resentment some feel. What a crossroads in our history the election of 2016 surely will be. We just cannot go on stoking fear, anger, and resentment to such a degree and somehow expect to be one nation again.
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In any event you will agree that the country has been in a steady decline for the past years, the national debt has been increasing, more social wars as you say, etc... I think people are fed up with this and in my opinion their approach is "to hell with everything, we might as well go all the way and fast towards wherever we're heading to". Just trying to theorize about why such an outrageous character has become so popular.

There is always the option to secede from the Union and become the great nation that Utah was once again :cool:
 
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