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Done with Locke...

do you know what "uncritical hagiography" meant? It wasn't subtle language. I don't think your overlying thing justifies looking the other way as far as uncritical hagiography is concerned.

Justly or not, it's a large reason why people do it.

How do you suggest these things be handled? Ignore military members completely? List any horrifying acts they were ordered to do while serving?

*And while I wouldn't know what hagiography meant by itself, I'd imagine it means some kind of idolizing/ignoring negatives probably in the form of propaganda.
 
These are quite extreme reaches. Can you suggest something worth responding to?

Uhh, you could just respond to the question of how you would handle it. But I understand it's easy to just criticize rather than offer a solution.
 
Uhh, you could just respond to the question of how you would handle it. But I understand it's easy to just criticize rather than offer a solution.

Jimmy and I were discussing a problem. It isn't necessary to then offer fixes. The military certainly has people who are worthy of accolade. I'm sure we could publicly acknowledge them when the time is right.
 
Aristotle is credited with saying this, "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Which I think means that if you're worried about hearing opinions or ideas that don't mesh with yours because you can't handle it, you must be weak of mind. But that's just me reading between the lines. Come on, indulge Monkey Locke in his venue. I personally appreciate that he speaks what he thinks. Doesn't impact my feelings about the Jazz or sports for that matter. We all operate in this political world, to pretend that we don't is childish.
 
Justly or not, it's a large reason why people do it.

How do you suggest these things be handled? Ignore military members completely? List any horrifying acts they were ordered to do while serving?

*And while I wouldn't know what hagiography meant by itself, I'd imagine it means some kind of idolizing/ignoring negatives probably in the form of propaganda.

It's appropriate that your name and avatar invoke a saint, as hagiography also refers to stories/biographies of saints. What would I do? Well, to start of with, I'd stop highlighting service men/women attending b-ball games or other sporting events and thereby creating social pressure to stand up and cheer them for little other reason than they serve in the military (ok, in some cases they do have meritorious service records). We've created a set of strong social expectations that we are to cheer the military and people serving in it, coupled with shaming of those who do not fall in line. The military (along with police force) is one of THE most powerful instituitons in society and should not be extended privileged status because ongoing and rigorous monitoring of them is absolutely essential to curb abuses, while creating social expectations that we should refrain from criticising them, and even cheering them, weakens our ability to monitor them.
 
It's appropriate that your name and avatar invoke a saint, as hagiography also refers to stories/biographies of saints. What would I do? Well, to start of with, I'd stop highlighting service men/women attending b-ball games or other sporting events and thereby creating social pressure to stand up and cheer them for little other reason than they serve in the military (ok, in some cases they do have meritorious service records). We've created a set of strong social expectations that we are to cheer the military and people serving in it, coupled with shaming of those who do not fall in line. The military (along with police force) is one of THE most powerful instituitons in society and should not be extended privileged status because ongoing and rigorous monitoring of them is absolutely essential to curb abuses, while creating social expectations that we should refrain from criticising them, and even cheering them, weakens our ability to monitor them.

No one makes you cheer for them...
 
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