Donovan Mitchell was the ______ best player this season.

[oneye]

No one. And I'm being completely serious. Sure, you could say LBJ, Giannis, Harden, Steph and several others. And you'd be right. But Donovan means a helluva lot more to Utah than just his raw stats. Mitchell has embraced the team, the fans and the state like no other. Is it an act? Maybe. But it's a great one. Mitchell is an ambassador for the team and the state. That's not something you'd ever trade. Can you imagine the backlash?

This. To add to that he’s the best value in the NBA, the absoulte best. But mainly he’s just too good to fans, too perfect for being here. I’m curious to know how many fans would want to trade for Leonard if SA called and offered. I wouldn’t, the kids intangibles are far to valuable to fans and this organization.

 

[Rubashov]

Around 30-35.

While im currently doing everything i can to discredit Siro this seems about right, maybe somewhere in the 25 to 35 bracket. Its very hard to look at his season without thinking, wait this kids a rookie!

 

[b_line]

Call me crazy, but I think Donovan has had a better season overall than Rudy has. I think Rudy was definitely our best player last year, but I'd give the nod to Donovan this year. That may change long-term, I'm also factoring in injuries.

I will call you crazy. Donovan has been awesome. Rudy? Transcendent.

 

[b_line]

I think somewhere around 30 feels right, but I hope he is around 15 or higher next year. If we were looking at particular stretches this year, he could be anywhere from 50 to top 10, depending on the 10 game stretch. That is awesome. At his worst, he is better than so many players. At his best, he is one of the top players in the league.

 

[sahlensguy]

I'll take DM at 30 over Hayward's 17 from last year every day of the week.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

don't know he's only a scorer

He's not only just a scorer, you idiot!

I guess you can use any criteria you want for 'best player'.

If best player has any links to impact on winning basketball games I think there are a few more people on this list. Mind you, DM's potential to rise up this list is real.


Currently 'better' than Mitchell (no particular order) and in ADDITION to the ones you listed (Minus Beal):

Khawi
Covington
Simmons
Cousins
Draymond
Gobert
Jokic
Lowry
Otto Porter
KAT
Kemba
George (despite crappy latter part of season)
Conley
Jrue
Hayward


I think he is in the same ballpark already as the players listed below - probably have him at the top of this list and projects to be better than all of them within 5 minutes in anycase.

Porzingis (?)
Love
Blake Griffin
Deandre Jordan
Ingles
Klay Thompson
Marc Gasol
Beal
Eric Gordon
Wall
Rubio
Middleton
Van Fleet
Devin Booker
Horford
Olynyk
Garry Harris
Tobias



And ahead of these guys:

Wiggins
Saric
Nurkic
Roberson
Adams
Capela
Dragic
CJ
Jamal Murray
Kuzma
Tatum
Dennis Smith Jnr (easily)
Schroder
Ingram
Randle
Ball
Harrison Barnes
Hood



So all in all I have him at 31.
I found it interesting that on WINS he is ranked 32. And many of the people I had ahead of him were ahead of him on Win Shares. Not sure how great that stat is, but it matched with my 'eye' test and glance at other stats. The only players I had ahead of him that were not ahead of him on WINS were Kyrie and Rudy.

I estimate him to be top 15 within 18 months.

This is laughable, I have no problem where u rank Mitchell, but Covington in your top grouping?? Hayward?? He played all of two min this year, and Conley?? Pretty much the same as Hayward, and you can add Leonard in that category too. You're either an idiot, or an idiot, and last but not least possibly an idiot!!

#25-30.

Rudy definitely top 15 if not top 10.

I have Mitchell in the 20-25 range Gobert top ten who in your top 11-15 affect a game the way Gobert does, or as much. I might go as far to say he's the #1 center in the league right now.

 

[Et tu Brute]

You included Cousins in your above him because of impact on winning? LOL

Bona fide two way player - but I get your point about him never having had success.
I thought this year was a bit different - but his net ratings weren't great.

So yeah fair point.

 

[Et tu Brute]

He's not only just a scorer, you idiot!

This is laughable, I have no problem where u rank Mitchell, but Covington in your top grouping?? Hayward?? He played all of two min this year, and Conley?? Pretty much the same as Hayward, and you can add Leonard in that category too. You're either an idiot, or an idiot, and last but not least possibly an idiot!!

I have Mitchell in the 20-25 range Gobert top ten who in your top 11-15 affect a game the way Gobert does, or as much. I might go as far to say he's the #1 center in the league right now.

Why the hell do you not consider players who are injured?
You think Leonard and Hayward should just be put on some **** player list. You do realise they are both max players already?

Covington is perhaps the most underrated player in the league. Will be all team defense. Advanced stats absolutely love him. According to RPM he is a top 10 player.

Love your wit btw ...

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Why the hell do you not consider players who are injured?
You think Leonard and Hayward should just be put on some **** player list. You do realise they are both max players already?

Covington is perhaps the most underrated player in the league. Will be all team defense. Advanced stats absolutely love him. According to RPM he is a top 10 player.

Love your wit btw ...

Look at the title, this year it says, we are basing it off what players have done this year.

I love covington's game, but come on he's not on that level. lol I don't care about advanced stats. People rely on them too much instead of actually watching them play. It's a lazy way to analyze a player because they don't want to do all the prep work it takes to know how a player plays, because all they do is look at box scores


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[Et tu Brute]

Look at the title, this year it says, we are basing it off what players have done this year.

I love covington's game, but come on he's not on that level. lol I don't care about advanced stats. People rely on them too much instead of actually watching them play. It's a lazy way to analyze a player because they don't want to do all the prep work it takes to know how a player plays, because all they do is look at box scores


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I was repsonding to David Stern - but in the context of your thread you are right. Congrats!
I don't worship advanced stats either. But often they match the eye test.

Covington is better than you think clearly. But, I wouldn't be dismayed if you and others thought Mitchell was better.
For me, at this exact point in time, Covington has a bigger impact on winning basketball games than Mitchell.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I was repsonding to David Stern - but in the context of your thread you are right. Congrats!
I don't worship advanced stats either. But often they match the eye test.

Covington is better than you think clearly. But, I wouldn't be dismayed if you and others thought Mitchell was better.
For me, at this exact point in time, Covington has a bigger impact on winning basketball games than Mitchell.

It's not ok that u think Covington is better then Mitchell IMO Thinking like that gets u in a padded room


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[Et tu Brute]

It's not ok that u think Covington is better then Mitchell IMO Thinking like that gets u in a padded room


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Defense matters bro....
And he is a streaky shooter that can load up.

The fact you think it's a no contest says a bit about what you value in a player.