Rudy in late 20s?? Wow. I'd put Rudy about at #10, myself.
Donovan Mitchell was the ______ best player this season.
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Feels about right.
Wut? No way Donovan is ahead of Rudy.
Based on what he's done when we've needed a spark I'd put him pretty up there too.
FalseFlagg K
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don't know he's only a scorer
He averaged the 21st most ppg in the NBA. He was the leading scorer and most important player offensively on a top 4 team in the west.
His importance to the Jazz is kind of hard to quantify though. He was literally our only player creating offense for our team for good chunks of the season. How many games would we have won if we didnt have him this year?
If you want to say he was the second best on the Jazz this year I think that is probably true but arguable. He definitely was our most important on offense and Gobert was our most important on defense. But lets look at who is the second best player on the teams with our same records in the West. CJ McCollum, Paul George, Cousins or Jrue, and KAT.
I would rank him around 20-30. I think the intangibles and leadership put him closer to 20 but his stats put him closer to 30. I cant put him below that due to our record and his importance to getting that.
We got to see a big impact from Gobert due to him being out. But some of that had to do with our team gelling and getting rolling. We obviously went on a big win streak when Gobert first went down and then we had our really hard part of the schedule. When he got back we got rolling again due to him, Rubio playing much better, the schedule, and the team playing together better.
We didnt get to see what it is like without Mitchell for any significant time.
His importance to the Jazz is kind of hard to quantify though. He was literally our only player creating offense for our team for good chunks of the season. How many games would we have won if we didnt have him this year?
If you want to say he was the second best on the Jazz this year I think that is probably true but arguable. He definitely was our most important on offense and Gobert was our most important on defense. But lets look at who is the second best player on the teams with our same records in the West. CJ McCollum, Paul George, Cousins or Jrue, and KAT.
I would rank him around 20-30. I think the intangibles and leadership put him closer to 20 but his stats put him closer to 30. I cant put him below that due to our record and his importance to getting that.
We got to see a big impact from Gobert due to him being out. But some of that had to do with our team gelling and getting rolling. We obviously went on a big win streak when Gobert first went down and then we had our really hard part of the schedule. When he got back we got rolling again due to him, Rubio playing much better, the schedule, and the team playing together better.
We didnt get to see what it is like without Mitchell for any significant time.
I'd put him about on par with Beal, maybe just behind.
David Stern
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Call me crazy, but I think Donovan has had a better season overall than Rudy has. I think Rudy was definitely our best player last year, but I'd give the nod to Donovan this year. That may change long-term, I'm also factoring in injuries.
Zombie
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That's true, but given he included players who hadn't even stepped foot on an NBA court, it seems odd. If he was 30-50 I would get it, but 68? C'mon man.
I think its a hard call. I can see an argument for both players. Clearly Gobert was our best defensive player but clearly Mitchell was our best offensive player.
Mitchell played really well from December on. Gobert wasnt playing well to start the season as well though. Gobert missed a lot of time which should impact who is the best player on our team as well to me.
Advanced stats lean strongly towards Gobert. Leadership and personality in general lean towards Mitchell for me.
Archie Moses
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Huh?!?!
He put those guys at the very end of the list tho. If he put Embiid top 50 after 38 games it would have been stupid. Honestly, 68 was too high for a pre-season rank for a guy no one thought could stay healthy.
I didnt link the list to critique it with hindsight, just to show how much things have changed.