Donovan Mitchell - We are lucky to have him

[JazzAvenues]

Set aside politics for a moment. Set aside Donald Trump. Set aside Donovan Mitchell.

Instead, focus on the behaviors and ask which you would like to see adopted as a universal law to be followed by everyone at all times (Kant's Categorical Imperative)

Law #1 - If you hold a position of power you should feel free to single out individuals and bully them on their personal characteristics.

Law #2 - If you see someone being bullied you should stand up for them and point out to the bully that their actions are unacceptable and set a bad example for others to follow.

I would accept Law#2 at any time, and fight against Law#1

 

[latin jazz]

Set aside politics for a moment. Set aside Donald Trump. Set aside Donovan Mitchell.

Instead, focus on the behaviors and ask which you would like to see adopted as a universal law to be followed by everyone at all times (Kant's Categorical Imperative)

Law #1 - If you hold a position of power you should feel free to single out individuals and bully them on their personal characteristics.

Law #2 - If you see someone being bullied you should stand up for them and point out to the bully that their actions are unacceptable and set a bad example for others to follow.

I would accept Law#2 at any time, and fight against Law#1

JazzAvenues for President. Make it happen.

 

[cowhide]

Big mistake, Donovan. Don't ever involve yourself in politics; you are guaranteed to piss off half the people in this state if you do.

If you got pissed off about what he said then you must be a snowflake Trump support. DM was spot on. Trump is a thin-skinned bully who can dish it out but can't take it. DM showed real maturity in his response and stuck up for his friend Lebron. Trump continues to act like an immature and insecure person, he needs to grow up and be a real leader.

Your comment that Lebron started this. What did he start? He was asked a question and answered it honestly? After all the nonsense Trump has spewed, I can see why Lebron wouldn't sit down with him. Lebron didn't start this, Trump started this by questioning Obama citizenship which is the reason why the black community dislikes him so much.

 

[♪alt13]

<sigh> You folks don't get it. You betcha, Donovan has the right to say whatever he wants, but then those who disagree with his political statements have the right to tune out the Utah Jazz. Utah is a red state.

Think about it. I'm sure DL and Gail Miller are.

Gail could have sold the team for a billion dollars. BILLION!

I'm not saying that she isn't a business woman but clearly money isn't everything.

I see a big difference in what LeBron/Curry have said about Trump vs. what Donovan said.

Without attacking Trump (personally or politically), Mitchell suggested that he focus on being a good example for kids by being less antagonistic - I don’t see anything wrong or controversial about that tbh.

I actually do see something wrong with him being less antagonistic/controversial. He's really young and just getting his feet wet so he gets a pass.

DM has already inked a deal that will pay him more than most of us will make in a lifetime. He has a skill that will allow him to make millions more. He comes from an upper class family and you can tell that he's wicked smart.

He has a freedom to speak without losing much from his comfortable life. If someone like that does not have the courage to speak out who will? We need citizens who can speak out and who will be heard to do it. We need them to have some courage. We need them to speak out in defense of the defenseless not just their powerful NBA pals.

I hope DM becomes that guy. From what I can tell so far, I think he might.

 

[oneye]

Gail could have sold the team for a billion dollars. BILLION!

I'm not saying that she isn't a business woman but clearly money isn't everything.


I actually do see something wrong with him being less antagonistic/controversial. He's really young and just getting his feet wet so he gets a pass.

DM has already inked a deal that will pay him more than most of us will make in a lifetime. He has a skill that will allow him to make millions more. He comes from an upper class family and you can tell that he's wicked smart.

He has a freedom to speak without losing much from his comfortable life. If someone like that does not have the courage to speak out who will? We need citizens who can speak out and who will be heard to do it. We need them to have some courage. We need them to speak out in defense of the defenseless not just their powerful NBA pals.

I hope DM becomes that guy. From what I can tell so far, I think he might.

Oh DM is smart as **** he’s only 21 years old and everything he does, you can just see it. With things I see him like/say on social media he will not be just an athlete, and you can tell he’s going to make a point of that. It will burn some bridges along the way but if people can’t accept him for who he is, then **** them. Donovan’s a great role model. I do think it was a bit more brave if him than most though. Donovan has only played one season, and yes he does have guaranteed big money for the years ahead but stepping out this early is rare. You’d almost expect it more after that max contract gets signed, so I kind of respect it even more.

 

[Deleted member 365]

You know what we need? We need these pro basketball players, like DM and LJ to shut up and dribble. We hear enough from them and their liberal friends in the media. We need to... *flips through dozens of notes from my yellow pad*

“respect the other side and be civil. Both sides are equally at fault.”

 

[Deleted member 365]

I’ve seen a handful, but that tweet has reached every corner of the country at this point. I clicked on some to see where they were from, and it’s all over. Dude didn’t even say anything wrong. I would say I’ve seen maybe 15-20 Jazz fans, but I’ve seen that many agree with him and the rest probably don’t care too much. Kids a great kid, if people can turn on a dime that quick I would prefer they get the f*** our of the fan base anyway. Now it has about 1,500 comments and over 100,000 likes, so I guess the good is far outweighing the bad as far as likes. The negatives will always comment. What a ****** world, with some trash *** people.

The consensus has been positive. But I’ve seen a handful of critical replies (from jazz fans) to DM’s tweet that have 50+ likes. To me, that’s appalling.

DM’s tweet was pretty straightforward and non-political. But even if it was, so what? It’s pretty obvious we have a jackass in the White House. He just admitted today over twitter that the meeting with Russians in trump tower was designed to get dirt on Clinton. Something he lied about one year ago when he claimed that the meeting was designed over “childhood adoptions.”

And he has the nerve to go after Lebron???

The more people who call trump out for his divisiveness, the better IMO.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I like how the discussion on this thread went from "Donovan is the best and he is making us more popular" to "Donovan is going to make the Jazz lose half their fan-base".

And besides that, the NBA's fan-base is inherently liberal and those who arent understand they are in the minority so they have learned to handle/ignore it. It's like if you watched baseball as a liberal and then said **** this and stopped watching when you found out the other fans/players are all mostly hicks who voted for Trump.

I think the NFL gets hurt by this stuff so much because the fan/player base is so huge and diverse (culturally and racially) that there is kind of a power struggle of what the identity of the league is.

 

[oneye]

The consensus has been positive. But I’ve seen a handful of critical replies (from jazz fans) to DM’s tweet that have 50+ likes. To me, that’s appalling.

DM’s tweet was pretty straightforward and non-political. But even if it was, so what? It’s pretty obvious we have a jackass in the White House. He just admitted today over twitter that the meeting with Russians in trump tower was designed to get dirt on Clinton. Something he lied about one year ago when he claimed that the meeting was designed over “childhood adoptions.”

And he has the nerve to go after Lebron???

The more people who call trump out for his divisiveness, the better IMO.

I mean it’s gonna happen. Karl Anthony towns posted something as well, and his tweet has more comments. I haven’t looked through them much but there’s plenty of negativity there. I’m actually perfectly fine with the intolerant Trump defenders being chased out of the fan base. If you aren’t reasonable, I would rather you weren’t a fan. Donovan will go farther than that at some date, so the snowflakes better get out now.

 

[JimLes]

It's hilarious when people still believe that a flood of pro-Trump people commenting on a popular tweet are actually American.

 

[JimLes]

Rudy slaying it on Twitter.

 

[Gameface]

Rudy slaying it on Twitter.

****ing awesome!