No way does a dweeb that took half a decade to develop in the league, 25 years to develop into a disappointing adult, and still hasn't grown a pair dictate anything about how an all-world/superstar/MVP talent develops.^And no way does Donovan develop like he has with Gordon as the primary option. The player I really underestimated was Ingles. He's stepped into the SF position and I think his 2-way contribution almost matches what Hayward gave Utah. Joe is a much better defender.