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Don't Ask, Don't Tell is officially history!!

I understand dutch's point of view about serving with homosexuals and why it can be a problem:

Military combat is a very specialized field comparable to nothing in civilian life. There has to be a special bond among warriors -- and only one kind of bond. The soldierly bond gets confused if some guys think their comrades are hot or if they suspect their superior is having a relationship with a fellow soldier.

It's the same confusion that results from putting girls in the military. When an officer makes a decision, nothing should enter into it except his views on the best military strategy.

The military part of the military has valid reasons for wanting to separate the idea of martial ardor and sexual attraction. Combat units can't have anything that interferes with unit cohesion, such as, for example, platoon members who are dating one another. Racial prejudice is not the same thing as sexual attraction, so please stop telling us this is just like integrating blacks in the military.
DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL, DON'T CALL OUR TROOPS HOMOPHOBES
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Millsapa, that's a good point you raised, however as I stated earlier in the thread, many businesses have a no interoffice dating policy. The armed forces would also likely adopt this.

The way I worded it was a bit sensationalistic, however I want to say it again: millions of people go to work every day and yet, not surprisingly at all, cubicles are not perpetual orgy get-togethers. Businesses across the country experience vast amounts of success despite having an environment ripe for sexual attraction.
 
He was the guy who got Julian Assange (wikileaks guy) the files that are becoming so famous.

I assume Millsapa brought his name up because he is suspected of being gay (his facebook page has a photo of him attending a gay pride rally). It's also been conjectured that Manning did what he did because he was unhappy at the USA's stance on DADT.
 
chemdude1232 said:
Millsapa, that's a good point you raised, however as I stated earlier in the thread, many businesses have a no interoffice dating policy. The armed forces would also likely adopt this.

The way I worded it was a bit sensationalistic, however I want to say it again: millions of people go to work every day and yet, not surprisingly at all, cubicles are not perpetual orgy get-togethers. Businesses across the country experience vast amounts of success despite having an environment ripe for sexual attraction.
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Did you miss the first sentence:

Military combat is a very specialized field comparable to nothing in civilian life.

Those in the office don't have to depend on each other for their very lives.
 
And yet there are plenty of reports (more than not, from what I've read) that state that the far majority of people in the armed services don't (or wouldn't) have a problem serving with a homosexual.
 
chemdude1232 said:
He was the guy who got Julian Assange (wikileaks guy) the files that are becoming so famous.

I assume Millsapa brought his name up because he is suspected of being gay (his facebook page has a photo of him attending a gay pride rally). It's also been conjectured that Manning did what he did because he was unhappy at the USA's stance on DADT.
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Exactly...his act supports the "weak minded" theory.
 
You can't be seriously using that as an example of a weak-minded example.

I'd call it supporting the "pissed off" theory instead.

But I'll play your game for a second and give you some examples of people who are (were) gay. Let me know if any of them were weak-minded:
https://www.lambda.org/famous.htm

Before you hide behind the "military is different than civvie life" thing, look closely and you'll find a few soldiers on that list.
 
chemdude1232 said:
And yet there are plenty of reports (more than not, from what I've read) that state that the far majority of people in the armed services don't (or wouldn't) have a problem serving with a homosexual.
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The combat units don't support the overturning. Marines are the most resistant at 58%.
 
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