Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai

Archie Moses

Well-Known Member
You're not saying anything
As the guy that calls everyone an idiot about everything and yet claims to have a jumper like Ariza (bro, your shot was stiff af, uncomfortable to watch, bad form, and not athletic looking at all) I'm not surprised you don't think I'm saying anything.

I'll break it down. You're a gawd damn idiot for comparing your jumper to Ariza.

I don't think you're an idiot.

Am I saying anything now, Trevor?
 

Gameface

You Are Not Forgotten
Contributor
2018 Award Winner
Please address anything I said. All you’re doing is calling people idiots. Contribute to the discussion and don’t be a sheep.
The guy starts out taking about the deep state and dr. Fauci intentionally lying to us and not just telling is that the cure is an improved immune system. It's pure ******** from the start.

Sent from my SM-G973U using JazzFanz mobile app
 
Last edited:

Saint Cy of JFC

Well-Known Member
As the guy that calls everyone an idiot about everything and yet claims to have a jumper like Ariza (bro, your shot was stiff af, uncomfortable to watch, bad form, and not athletic looking at all) I'm not surprised you don't think I'm saying anything.

I'll break it down. You're a gawd damn idiot for comparing your jumper to Ariza.

I don't think you're an idiot.

Am I saying anything now, Trevor?
You sound mad
 

gandalfe

Well-Known Member
As the guy that calls everyone an idiot about everything and yet claims to have a jumper like Ariza (bro, your shot was stiff af, uncomfortable to watch, bad form, and not athletic looking at all) I'm not surprised you don't think I'm saying anything.

I'll break it down. You're a gawd damn idiot for comparing your jumper to Ariza.

I don't think you're an idiot.

Am I saying anything now, Trevor?
Someone can be highly educated and a genius, but when you take them out of their area of expertise, they don't know what they're talking about.

Ben Carson is a prime example. By all accounts he was one of the most brilliant surgeons around, but when you put him in politics, he floundered.
 

One Brow

Well-Known Member
But, for the greater good, they should be.

Utilitarianism.
Not quite. Utilitarianism is the notion of creating the greatest good for the most people even if a small number of people suffer. Mandatory vaccinations (if that were really on the table, which I doubt) would be about protecting everyone and not letting anyone suffer.
 

Archie Moses

Well-Known Member
Not quite. Utilitarianism is the notion of creating the greatest good for the most people even if a small number of people suffer. Mandatory vaccinations (if that were really on the table, which I doubt) would be about protecting everyone and not letting anyone suffer.
I guess the suffer would be taking away the right to choose not to send vaccines do cause harm (very small percentage of them) or no?
 

Saint Cy of JFC

Well-Known Member
Someone can be highly educated and a genius, but when you take them out of their area of expertise, they don't know what they're talking about.

Ben Carson is a prime example. By all accounts he was one of the most brilliant surgeons around, but when you put him in politics, he floundered.
Or people can use their "smarts" to purposefully mislead and misinform for their own agenda.
 

One Brow

Well-Known Member
I guess the suffer would be taking away the right to choose not to send vaccines do cause harm (very small percentage of them) or no?
There are very specific contraindications for vaccines. For everyone else, the potential protection from the vaccine outweighs the potential harm *for that individual*.

I'm not saying I support forced vaccination (overall, I don't think I do), just that any argument in favor of it would not be based on utilitarian ethics. It's based on valuing each individual.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MVP

Ron Mexico

Well-Known Member
Contributor
There are very specific contraindications for vaccines. For everyone else, the potential protection from the vaccine outweighs the potential harm *for that individual*.

I'm not saying I support forced vaccination (overall, I don't think I do), just that any argument in favor of it would not be based on utilitarian ethics. It's based on valuing each individual.
I'm all for freedom when it didn't effect others. I'm not free to harm others. I'm comfortable supporting consequences for not using vaccines. Also for parental abuse for not giving kids them. But it is an interesting debate and I are the difficulty in the idea of mandating them.

Vaccines are the single greatest medical accomplishment in history. It's crazy hour many anti vax people there are.
 

jope

Well-Known Member
for what its worth, theres a dev in my engineering squad at Nike, who has a BS from Stanford and a masters from MIT, and he's pretty clueless about a lot of things
 

Wes Mantooth

Well-Known Member
for what its worth, theres a dev in my engineering squad at Nike, who has a BS from Stanford and a masters from MIT, and he's pretty clueless about a lot of things
You work in Oregon, I assume? I have a relative who works there.
 
Top