**** DuPont

[moevillini]

just to make this Jazz related, sort of,
fyi, Deron Williams was born in Parkersburg, WVa

not saying that explains anything though...

 

[Stifle Tower]

Maybe I will try the more oil thing. The stainless pans look really fancy and cool and are good quality pans, I just hate cleaning the ****ers

Yes, when a non-stick pan wears out, think of where all that coating has been going. We've been using either olive oil cooking spray or grapeseed oil. Grapeseed oil doesn't break down as easily at higher temperatures so it's better to use (or so my wife says).

 

[Stifle Tower]

Business has no responsibility to be ethical whatsoever. Government has a responsibility to ensure that business people are ethical. A few swift, high profile cases would go a long way in preventing this stuff. Our drawn out litigation (often a decade plus) and structural corporate protections leave many unharmed by the damage they cause.

Well, they've tried with the FDA and the EPA. But god knows how wrought with fraud those two entities have been. Many times they are run by former employees of the very businesses they've been entrusted to investigate. Appointments are easily swayed by the size of campaign contributions. Have to take it out of government hands and somehow make it independent and non-profit, similar to what Consumer Reports does with their testing of retail products.

 

[moevillini]

Well, they've tried with the FDA and the EPA. But god knows how wrought with fraud those two entities have been. Many times they are run by former employees of the very businesses they've been entrusted to investigate. Appointments are easily swayed by the size of campaign contributions. Have to take it out of government hands and somehow make it independent and non-profit, similar to what Consumer Reports does with their testing of retail products.

IAWTP

 

[Gameface]

I'm with Fish on this one. My wife convinced me to replace our old teflon pans with SS pans and I hate cleaning them. I do 99.99% or the real cooking around here and I ended up buying a couple pans that I use most of the time that are non-stick.

But what I've been using more than anything else for the last year is this guy.

The Zojirushi Gourmet Sizzler. Thing is freaking huge! I can cook other crap on my stove top while I do stuff on this guy. The best thing for cooking eggs sausage and hash browns all at the same time I've ever seen short of a commercial griddle.

And pretty often when I'm cooking meat on the gourmet sizzler I'm making brown rice in the Zojirushi fuzzy logic rice cooker.

I'm a straight up zojirushi fan boy at this point.

 

[The Midnight]

I'm with Fish on this one. My wife convinced me to replace our old teflon pans with SS pans and I hate cleaning them. I do 99.99% or the real cooking around here and I ended up buying a couple pans that I use most of the time that are non-stick.

But what I've been using more than anything else for the last year is this guy.

The Zojirushi Gourmet Sizzler. Thing is freaking huge! I can cook other crap on my stove top while I do stuff on this guy. The best thing for cooking eggs sausage and hash browns all at the same time I've ever seen short of a commercial griddle.

And pretty often when I'm cooking meat on the gourmet sizzler I'm making brown rice in the Zojirushi fuzzy logic rice cooker.

I'm a straight up zojirushi fan boy at this point.

Are you Asian?

 

[Gameface]

No

 

[The Midnight]

No

Well seems like you're really into Asian food.. LOL ..

 

[Gameface]

Well seems like you're really into Asian food.. LOL ..

There is no type of food I don't love. But Asian food is like 60% of food. There's no real way to avoid it. Plus my deployments were all from the west coast so we stopped in Asian cities.

 

[♪alt13]

Thanks dal

Me and my old lady are going to go get cast iron pans this weekend.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Thanks dal

Me and my old lady are going to go get cast iron pans this weekend.

glad to hear it! I would suggest getting some enamelled ones, because the others tend to rust if you don't take extremely good care of them. But, on the flip-side, they can also be way more expensive!

 

[Deleted member 848]

I'm not cynical on humanity and have way more faith in people than most I interact with. You are giving way too much credit here if you think that at least some of the most successful, driven, cutthroat people in the world are not going to do whatever is necessary to be the absolute best. I've worked for people who were utterly despicable human beings who had no clue and thought they were doing God's work (A whole lot of LDS businessmen are well known for treating people like trash and being clueless to the fact).

A rather depressing commentary on humanity, honestly.

Business has no responsibility to be ethical whatsoever. Government has a responsibility to ensure that business people are ethical. A few swift, high profile cases would go a long way in preventing this stuff. Our drawn out litigation (often a decade plus) and structural corporate protections leave many unharmed by the damage they cause.

Of course-- I'm not sitting here expecting every corporation to regulate their own ethics. With that said, I still have every right to be disgusted when a company conducts affairs unethically, and allows rampant levels of chronic disease and death go on in their workplaces untreated. Actions like this must be condemned, and intense regulatory rehaul must be the response-- however, how can you implement changes when lobby groups are so powerful? Which elected president will actually give a **** about this?

 

[franklin]

A rather depressing commentary on humanity, honestly.

A rather honest commentary on humanity, honestly.

Of course-- I'm not sitting here expecting every corporation to regulate their own ethics. With that said, I still have every right to be disgusted when a company conducts affairs unethically, and allows rampant levels of chronic disease and death go on in their workplaces untreated. Actions like this must be condemned, and intense regulatory rehaul must be the response-- however, how can you implement changes when lobby groups are so powerful? Which elected president will actually give a **** about this?

I wholeheartedly agree with the first half. I obviously don't agree with the second half putting all the blame on a single president, or on a congress. Lobbyists are a disease of the people requiring pure democracy to cater to the stupid instead of acting like true republic representatives.

I don't have an answer for you other than a couple old James Madison and Joseph Smith quotes that are about voting for those who are both honest and wise. When we do that and stop playing the blame game then we will see results.

/randomrant

 

[Ron Mexico]

I use ceramic coated pots and pans. They work great and are supposedly better for you. They last longer than Teflon pans and are just as easy to clean.

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[Miggs]

glad to hear it! I would suggest getting some enamelled ones, because the others tend to rust if you don't take extremely good care of them. But, on the flip-side, they can also be way more expensive!

How much does a really good set (not necessarily pro level) of enameled ones cost?

Also, I feel bad for upsetting you earlier in this thread. If it makes you feel any better, and it probably doesn't, this type of corporate greed and malfeasons absolutely infuriates me as well. It's probably thee reason The Insider is my favorite film of all-time.

 

[fishonjazz]

How much does a really good set (not necessarily pro level) of enameled ones cost?

Also, I feel bad for upsetting you earlier in this thread. If it makes you feel any better, and it probably doesn't, this type of corporate greed and malfeasons absolutely infuriates me as well. It's probably thee reason The Insider is my favorite film of all-time.

Midnight run doe

 

[RandyForRubio]

DuPont invented spandex.

Spandex > chance of cancer

Thank you DuPont.

 

[NAOS]

but again. how are you supposed to know how dangerous any of their synthetic compounds really are-- when they've shown time and time again how effective they are at sequestering any evidence of carcinogenicity, or any public health risks.

start researching plastic.... (even the lmfao BPA-free plastic)