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Durrant & AK

Looking like we're not immune to superstar treatment either. Just last year:

Deron Williams:
Jump shots = 69%
Fouls drawn = 13.7%

That scales with Kobe and Durant, right?
 
I agree with you and I got your point that Durant despite being a perimeter player and taking jumpers (about 75% of the time) gets foul calls at a very high rate. Even if one doesn't agree with the call at least if your driving, posting up or around the rim when your attempting a shot it makes more sense that a foul could be called as their is more contact in the paint and/or your being aggressive taking into the paint (your LBJ and Howard stat).

I'm just trying to not sound like I'm dismissing or hating on Durant by not acknowledging that he is one of the best/better players in the league and that it would be nice if he would be allowed to earn and show it and not given and bailed out.
 
Dude in the NBA Durrant plays the 3 mostly. In the world championship he played the 4. So what are you talking about? Your previous post indicated you thought Durrant is a 4.

Actually if you look at defensive matchup, Iguodala was playing at the 4 more than Durant. He is just not a 4.
 
Looking like we're not immune to superstar treatment either. Just last year:

Deron Williams:
Jump shots = 69%
Fouls drawn = 13.7%

That scales with Kobe and Durant, right?
Uh...not at all. More jumpshots = fewer fouls drawn (except for Durant).
 
I'm just trying to not sound like I'm dismissing or hating on Durant by not acknowledging that he is one of the best/better players in the league and that it would be nice if he would be allowed to earn and show it and not given and bailed out.
Durant's awesome. No argument here. He shouldn't need David Stern's help.
 
In the grand scheme of just a few percentage points, I'd say they are comparable. Not equal, but comparable surely.
Games are decided by mere percentage points. Durant's fouls drawn percentage may be unprecedented (considering the number of jumpshots he takes). Not equal, not comparable.
 
Yes. That's why Durant's unprecedented favoritism from the league led them to an unprecedented 50 win season. Being favorited by the league resulted in them getting the 8th seed. Meanwhile, with the refs jilting us at every opportunity, we still eked out the 5th seed.

Why don't you cry yourself a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
 
Yes. That's why Durant's unprecedented favoritism from the league led them to an unprecedented 50 win season. Being favorited by the league resulted in them getting the 8th seed. Meanwhile, with the refs jilting us at every opportunity, we still eked out the 5th seed.

Why don't you cry yourself a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
Why don't you go **** yourself?

This is a topic about guarding Durant. The guy gets favorable calls. That doesn't take away (much) from his greatness, but it should raise an eye brow (looking at pace adjusted team free throws attempted and team jump shooting percentages for OKC v. the NBA should help raise the other).

I never said the refs jilted the Jazz. I never even hinted at it. I only commented on Kevin Durant and the Thunder. Is it not possible that some players are officiated differently than others (even Jazz players)? Don't get your panties in a bunch just because you didn't understand previous posts.
 
Why don't you go **** yourself?

This is a topic about guarding Durant. The guy gets favorable calls. That doesn't take away (much) from his greatness, but it should raise an eye brow (looking at pace adjusted team free throws attempted and team jump shooting percentages for OKC v. the NBA should help raise the other).

I never said the refs jilted the Jazz. I never even hinted at it. I only commented on Kevin Durant and the Thunder. Is it not possible that some players are officiated differently than others (even Jazz players)? Don't get your panties in a bunch just because you didn't understand previous posts.

Uh-oh. Someone's getting a little mad. I better watch myself.

Does Durant get favorable calls? I'm sure he does on occasion (whether it's an NBA/David Stern conspiracy or just ref-instigated favoritism doesn't matter to me very much, but that's another topic). I'm also sure it benefited our own Jazz players over the years too. Superstar treatment is not a new conspiracy, and I imagine it will haunt the NBA for as long as the league exists. I think we can agree on this.

Where we diverge is in the Durant/Deron comparison (which you actually did comment on, negating your claim that you only commented on Durant, but whatever...neither here nor there). I am of the opinion that Deron's Jump% correlated to his FTs taken% is of a relatively small enough difference compared to Durant to make the notion that Durant is some foul-magnet somewhat wrong. You don't think so (and in proper internet forum board fashion lashed out at the concept that someone thinks differently, but again, I frankly don't care).

I'm glad you said the refs don't jilt the Jazz. I never claimed you said it either. Another thing we can agree on.

Sure, it's possible that some players are reffed against differently than others. I would make the claim that the differences in calls lie (lay?) more in the sense that Player A plays a different style than Player B rather than refs seeing "Durant" printed on the back of the jersey and getting themselves ready to blow the ol' whistle.

I did understand previous posts actually. Again, I'm going to reference the fact that you are responding in the manner you are because I'm not kneeling down at your profound insight.
 
Actually if you look at defensive matchup, Iguodala was playing at the 4 more than Durant. He is just not a 4.

Yeah, it varied. Good thing we did not really play any teams that had two good low post players on the floor at the same time. Could have gotten interesting. It would be a little like AK. He can play 4 sometimes but against most players he just doesnt have the strength to play the 4.
 
Yeah, it varied. Good thing we did not really play any teams that had two good low post players on the floor at the same time. Could have gotten interesting. It would be a little like AK. He can play 4 sometimes but against most players he just doesnt have the strength to play the 4.

Agree - I think we lucked out when Pau Gasol decided not to play in the WC. Pau and Marc would have eaten us alive inside. That's why it's crucial we have more big bodies for the Olympics in London. Odom and Chandler are not going to cut it.
 
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