Dwill to Minnesota???

[Ron Mexico]

Jesus there are some angry people on here. Like I said I don't want to trade dwill I just thought it was an interesting discussion.

I am sorry I will start repeating my opinion about draft picks over and over again hoping some some how I will change your opinions which don't matter to the Jazz organization.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Well, since we're losing him in 3 years and getting nothing back in return, I say do it.
Besides, it's sheer lunacy to pay the MAX to a PG.

DWill is an all-star, but he's not without flaws. He's not a very good defender, commits too many turnovers and can't make a driving layup to save his life (he usually gets it blocked).

If Greg isn't committed to building a contender, then Deron is going to demand a trade. I say it's time for Miller to put up or shut up. Either make some bold moves or just start the rebuilding process now, by getting whatever you can for AK and Deron. Utah should have done the same with Carlos. Jazz didn't have a chance in hell of defeating the Lakers. And now Carlos will walk for nothing. Jazz could have gotten some nice draft picks in return for his expiring contract.

 

[Hopper]

Well, on second thought, who needs Drivewayball, eh?

...I say do it. He's not a very good defender, commits too many turnovers and can't make a driving layup to save his life (he usually gets it blocked).

 

[DexterMorgan]

Well, since we're losing him in 3 years and getting nothing back in return, I say do it.
Besides, it's sheer lunacy to pay the MAX to a PG.

DWill is an all-star, but he's not without flaws. He's not a very good defender, commits too many turnovers and can't make a driving layup to save his life (he usually gets it blocked).

If Greg isn't committed to building a contender, then Deron is going to demand a trade. I say it's time for Miller to put up or shut up. Either make some bold moves or just start the rebuilding process now, by getting whatever you can for AK and Deron. Utah should have done the same with Carlos. Jazz didn't have a chance in hell of defeating the Lakers. And now Carlos will walk for nothing. Jazz could have gotten some nice draft picks in return for his expiring contract.

Agreed. Except the part about DWill's defense and layups.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Wow, not what i would have expected in this thread.

 

[VINYLONE]

Well, since we're losing him in 3 years and getting nothing back in return, I say do it.

Interesting point. I havent look at it like that. In 3 years, you're right, Williams is as good as gone. I wouldn't want to play for our pathetic franchise either. Especially if they keep acquiring parts that will only get us as far as the 2nd round.

 

[Hopper]

Agreed. Except the part about DWill's defense and layups.

How many turnovers are "too many," I wonder? Deron was in the top 10 in asst/to ratio this year (3.17), significantly ahead of guys like Chancey Billips, Devin Harris, Russell Westbrook, and Brandon Roy, none of whom even made the top 30.

Derrick Rose, Darren Collison, Tony Parker, Mo Williams, and Mario Chalmers couldn't make the top 40.

Steph Curry, Tyreke Evans, Aaron Brooks--not even top 50.

Wait, I forgot...this is Jazzfanz. If you're not near-perfect, you're just no good.

 

[Hopper]

Interesting point. I havent look at it like that. In 3 years, you're right, Williams is as good as gone.

Not according to Deron. But even if he is, how would you expect to build a long-term future with a bunch of presumably high quality rookies? After 3 years, they can all be free agents too.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Not according to Deron. But even if he is, how would you expect to build a long-term future with a bunch of presumably high quality rookies? After 3 years, they can all be free agents too.

I think Deron will stay but almost all players who are good sign with their draft team after their rookie contracts, assuming the team wants them. Dwill did, lebron did, wade did, carmelo did chris paul did....

 

[Hopper]

I think Deron will stay but almost all players who are good sign with their draft team after their rookie contracts, assuming the team wants them. Dwill did, lebron did, wade did, carmelo did chris paul did....

Well, what would have happened to those guys if, for example, Carmelo, Wade, and Paul were all drafted by the same team in the same year (extreme example, I know, but it's used just to make the point). Would their teams have been able to pay ALL of them after their initial contracts were up? Would all three want to stay together, or would a desire to get more individual attention lead them in different directions?

 

[BENTLEY]

Hey, I applaud your out of the box thinking. You have courage.

I'm not saying I'd do it. I don't know what Deron's plans are when his contract is up, but it's this kind of forward thinking that would've really helped the Jazz get something out of Carlos Boozer. Instead they held onto him and now he's walking for nothing. It's true you'd want to hold onto D-will if he really plans on staying in Utah, but only those that interact with him on a regular basis have any chance of gleaming this.

But you'd pick up a lot of assets in a draft class that looks really good. I don't think Rubio would come over to play for Utah, but he's a major asset that could be traded for something. Again, for daring to suggest such out of the box blasphemy I must say I love your balls.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Well, what would have happened to those guys if, for example, Carmelo, Wade, and Paul were all drafted by the same team in the same year (extreme example, I know, but it's used just to make the point). Would their teams have been able to pay ALL of them after their initial contracts were up? Would all three want to stay together, or would a desire to get more individual attention lead them in different directions?

I dont know what would happen but lots of those players say they want to play together right now as established stars.

I think the best scenario here would net one all star player at best and 2 role players from the draft. No way Jazz pick three players in the same draft that end up being all stars.