Education

[One Brow]

There is more to life than $$.

Perhaps the talents, desires and goals of said student lie more in line with what a trade school can provide.

Providing as many paths as possible is a good thing is it not?

Perhaps, although at the age of 16, I'm not sure how much we can rely on our knowledge of a student's talents, goals, and desires. Even developmentally challenged kids moderately into the autism spectrum can find new challenges, opportunities, and capabilities in a college environment.

I'm not arguing against training in the trades. The community college I teach at does a lot of training in the trades, as well as classes that broaden the mind. Why would you steer kids away from that?

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Then don’t. Lol

Also, stfu. Lunch.

Hit me up. I'm in the valley today.

 

[silesian]

I want people who aren't in education to quit telling us how we need to fix education.

Innovation rarely comes from those entrenched in any institution.

 

[One Brow]

Innovation rarely comes from those entrenched in any institution.

Improvement rarely happens without detailed knowledge of the existing flaws.

 

[moevillini]

Perhaps, although at the age of 16, I'm not sure how much we can rely on our knowledge of a student's talents, goals, and desires. Even developmentally challenged kids moderately into the autism spectrum can find new challenges, opportunities, and capabilities in a college environment.

I'm not arguing against training in the trades. The community college I teach at does a lot of training in the trades, as well as classes that broaden the mind. Why would you steer kids away from that?

Agree, I wouldn't at all - - but in some communities, such thinking is completely shunned. Overall, I would like to see more respect for different paths, more flexibility for those who want to consider part-time student status, returning to school to complete a degree, internships and apprenticeships and stuff like that. And more understanding that a direct high-school to college path may not be the best path for everyone.

To a large degree I view much of this as more of a societal issue rather than strictly an education issue.

 

[silesian]

Improvement rarely happens without detailed knowledge of the existing flaws.

Yep. Horse buggy manufacturers invent better buggies. Someone else invented the car.

 

[One Brow]

Yep. Horse buggy manufacturers invent better buggies. Someone else invented the car.

You think that happened with extensive understanding of 1) the stresses that a carriage undergoes in travel, and 2) the already existing engine technology?

 

[Stoked]

Perhaps, although at the age of 16, I'm not sure how much we can rely on our knowledge of a student's talents, goals, and desires. Even developmentally challenged kids moderately into the autism spectrum can find new challenges, opportunities, and capabilities in a college environment.

I'm not arguing against training in the trades. The community college I teach at does a lot of training in the trades, as well as classes that broaden the mind. Why would you steer kids away from that?

Simply present all the options and let them decide. Just stick it all together. It’s their choice. Just present all the options. See what we get.

 

[LogGrad98]

You think that happened with extensive understanding of 1) the stresses that a carriage undergoes in travel, and 2) the already existing engine technology?

Karl Benz designed and built industrial scales and Bridges before he started working in engines.

 

[One Brow]

Simply present all the options and let them decide. Just stick it all together. It’s their choice. Just present all the options. See what we get.

Provide no guidance to a 16-year-old who is making decisions that will affect them when they are 40?

 

[One Brow]

Karl Benz designed and built industrial scales and Bridges before he started working in engines.

Exactly.

 

[LogGrad98]

Exactly.

François Isaac de Rivaz, the first one to put an internal combustion engine into a frame as an automobile was a surveyor and notary.