El Paso Shooting

[JazzGal]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-are-off-the-table/ar-AAG5iZd?ocid=spartanntp

President Trump talked Tuesday with National Rifle Association chief executive Wayne LaPierre and assured him that universal background checks were off the table, according to several people familiar with the call.

Yep, the NRA owns the Republican Party. Not that I ever believed otherwise.

 

[Stoked]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-are-off-the-table/ar-AAG5iZd?ocid=spartanntp



Yep, the NRA owns the Republican Party. Not that I ever believed otherwise.

Another excellent example of why lobbying should be dramatically restricted.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Trump flip flopped?

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Shocking, I know? Especially after I saw him read that one teleprompter speech right after the shootings. He had all the excitement of a hostage speech.

 

[Archie Moses]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/4-shot-co...ck-school-121658795--abc-news-topstories.html

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

I’m with you on tired, “edgy” bull ****.

But the point is not doing anything is an insult to victims of senseless gun violence and a catalyst to the creation of more victims. It is no coincidence that the place with the most guns has the most problems with them and it is absolutely mind-bending that this isn’t widely understood.

It starts becoming easy to connect the dots as to why many don't believe guns are the cause of increased mass killings after you accept the fact that mass killings are on the rise is a well debunked myth. Criminologists interested in why this phenomenon began in the 1960's and continues today have had a hard time providing answers. What changed? Not gun ownership. Not rise in racism or angst about ethnic diversity as many have pointed to, that one is easy to shoot down. Not ritalin consumption, as the old curmudgeons have tried to blame. So why? Nobody can answer that, unless you like this Christian's take: https://spectrummagazine.org/views/2019/mass-shootings-real-cause

Or I'm sure we could drum up some bull **** from Denis Prager.

"Guns ain't the problem" is a clinging redneck take, but it isn't just a clinging redneck take.

And don't take this to mean I'm claiming for a fact that guns aren't the problem. That's not my point of contention, only that there is much more to the question than the simple answer "guns, duh".

 

[Safetydan]

It starts becoming easy to connect the dots as to why many don't believe guns are the cause of increased mass killings after you accept the fact that mass killings are on the rise is a well debunked myth. Criminologists interested in why this phenomenon began in the 1960's and continues today have had a hard time providing answers. What changed? Not gun ownership. Not rise in racism or angst about ethnic diversity as many have pointed to, that one is easy to shoot down. Not ritalin consumption, as the old curmudgeons have tried to blame. So why? Nobody can answer that, unless you like this Christian's take: https://spectrummagazine.org/views/2019/mass-shootings-real-cause

Or I'm sure we could drum up some bull **** from Denis Prager.

"Guns ain't the problem" is a clinging redneck take, but it isn't just a clinging redneck take.

And don't take this to mean I'm claiming for a fact that guns aren't the problem. That's not my point of contention, only that there is much more to the question than the simple answer "guns, duh".

There are lots of problems in modern society. Nearly all societies have all of these problems. One of these societies has a **** ton of guns available. ...

It's guns duh.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

There are lots of problems in modern society. Nearly all societies have all of these problems. One of these societies has a **** ton of guns available. ...

It's guns duh.

I prefer a tad little more in depth analysis than simpleton nonsensical platitudes and fake correlations. So do the criminologists. You might as well claim the inverse correlation that gun ownership rates trending downward for decades = higher rates of mass killings, hence we need more guns.

 

[Safetydan]

I prefer the claim that people who live in countries with no guns don't get shot. I've lived in one before. It was pretty weird how people didn't get shot.

 

[JazzForLifee]

I walk around the city at 2-3 am knowing I m safe in Korea. I wonder why

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[JazzyFresh]

I walk around the city at 2-3 am knowing I m safe in Korea. I wonder why

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Same here and we have more guns than people in my state.

 

[Safetydan]

Same here and we have more guns than people in my state.

I bet Dong2ha feels safer than you.

And, chances are he has way more people in the sq. km he is currently walking around in at 3am.

 

[JazzyFresh]

I bet Dong2ha feels safer than you.

And, chances are he has way more people in the sq. km he is currently walking around in at 3am.

Most likely not. We haven't had a violent shooting in years.

As far as more people? Yeah probably. Gun culture here is much different than say downtown Chicago.