El Paso Shooting

[Coach Ellis]

Kind of reminds me of the Purge movies a bit too.

Also made by Blumhouse I think - I’m pretty sure one of them suggested the Purge was a way to deal with poor people instead of “crime”.

I thought those movies were trash and the Hunt looks that way also. That’s a personal opinion that has nothing to do with the political commentary of the movie. My guess is that they’ll go back and tone it down in editing before it ever hits theaters.

The Most Dangerous Game is actually a great story and will continue to be re-imagined because of that. There’s also real life instances of this happening (see also, Robert Hansen and the Alaska Murders).

 

[Red]

Trump and the El Paso shooter shared some ideology in common.
Trump and the El Paso shooter did not share all ideology in common.
Therefore, there is nothing to see here where their shared ideology is concerned.
OK.

 

[Zombie]

Also made by Blumhouse I think - I’m pretty sure one of them suggested the Purge was a way to deal with poor people instead of “crime”.

I thought those movies were trash and the Hunt looks that way also. That’s a personal opinion that has nothing to do with the political commentary of the movie. My guess is that they’ll go back and tone it down in editing before it ever hits theaters.

The Most Dangerous Game is actually a great story and will continue to be re-imagined because of that. There’s also real life instances of this happening (see also, Robert Hansen and the Alaska Murders).

Yeah I didn't enjoy the Purge either (I only saw the first one). This kind of movie has definitely been done before, and isn't really my cup of tea. If The Hunt ends up being a clever satire of the current state of America then maybe I'll catch it on Netflix eventually, otherwise I'm not all that interested.

 

[silesian]

Regarding the raids in the south, are we arresting the wrong people? If you jail and heavily fine the plant managers and CEOs, the two income families with the illegal nanny, the dude with a 5 acre property who hires illegal immigrants to take care of their pool and their ground. Put them all in jail, separate them from their children. Then you would have a amazing pressure to put in place a enact a sensible immigration policy. Because rich white dudes with political clout and their beautiful blonde children would be paying the price.

Even if you believe we should be deporting the illegal immigrants, why not also arrest the people hiring them? The rich are driven by profitability and the poor immigrants are driven by feeding their families. Both are wrong, why do we just jail the brown people?

 

[Zombie]

Regarding the raids in the south, are we arresting the wrong people? If you jail and heavily fine the plant managers and CEOs, the two income families with the illegal nanny, the dude with a 5 acre property who hires illegal immigrants to take care of their pool and their ground. Put them all in jail, separate them from their children. Then you would have a amazing pressure to put in place a enact a sensible immigration policy. Because rich white dudes with political clout and their beautiful blonde children would be paying the price.

Even if you believe we should be deporting the illegal immigrants, why not also arrest the people hiring them? The rich are driven by profitability and the poor immigrants are driven by feeding their families. Both are wrong, why do we just jail the brown people?

Probably because they're not donating millions of dollars to the politicians that write our laws and run these agencies.

 

[silesian]

Probably because they're not donating millions of dollars to the politicians that write our laws and run these agencies.

Bingo.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Let's be clear: antifa organizes for the 'violent' throwing of milkshakes and water. The Proud Boys (and similar right-wing groups) organize and train to use their fists and other weapons on people. If you believe both of these actions are equally wrong, I won't try to persuade you otherwise. However, to claim that it is hypocritical to day these actions are of a different character is ludicrous.

We’ll just have to disagree about the level of violence they’re willing to engage in. Antifa has done a lot more than just throw milkshakes and water. They cover their faces for a reason.

They frequently commit crimes when they’re protesting. It’s not uncommon for them to use “makeshift” weapons, pepper spray and to be the ones initiating the violence. They attacked Andy Ngo because they don’t like him. He didn’t do anything to deserve that, other than be there. And if you think it’s okay to physically attack him because of his reporting on them - you’re the fascist and the Nazi. To say that it’s only the right is hyperbole.

That guy who died trying to firebomb the ICE facility was the tip of the iceberg. There will be more violence attributed to them. If it’s wrong for one side, it’s wrong for both. That’s the nice thing about being an independent voter. I don’t feel like I have to justify ****** behavior from either side.

 

[framer]

Regarding the raids in the south, are we arresting the wrong people? If you jail and heavily fine the plant managers and CEOs, the two income families with the illegal nanny, the dude with a 5 acre property who hires illegal immigrants to take care of their pool and their ground. Put them all in jail, separate them from their children. Then you would have a amazing pressure to put in place a enact a sensible immigration policy. Because rich white dudes with political clout and their beautiful blonde children would be paying the price.

Even if you believe we should be deporting the illegal immigrants, why not also arrest the people hiring them? The rich are driven by profitability and the poor immigrants are driven by feeding their families. Both are wrong, why do we just jail the brown people?

Fairly certain that the people running the plants are in trouble as well. . .

 

[Coach Ellis]

Fairly certain that the people running the plants are in trouble as well. . .

Good. They should be. Stop the incentive to come here illegally, and the only ones left are those who have legitimate amnesty claims. The employers should be crushed by both civil and criminal consequences. Deter the behavior.

 

[Zombie]

Fairly certain that the people running the plants are in trouble as well. . .

I must've missed the story about Joseph Grendys getting dragged into the back of a police car while his kids were stranded in school.

The companies may face fines, which for businesses of this size they'll have no trouble paying and continuing on their way. Meanwhile the little people get rounded up and and their children terrorized.

Doesn't really feel like equal application of justice to me.

 

[Zombie]

Glad this guy was caught.

Oh wait.



Chances he gets to hold on to his firearms?

 

[Stoked]

Within a few months of taking office, Hitler had banned all opposition political party and trade unions, passed the Enabling Act, formed the Gestapo, and had an official book burning. Trump's not Hitler, and Trump's not going to be Hitler. He's evil enough just being Trump.

****ing thank you!

Glad this guy was caught.

Oh wait.



Chances he gets to hold on to his firearms?

Did he have a valid reason for being there?