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Archie Moses said:
Actually, the more I Google the numbers, the more I see it's wrong. Obama had something like 32 during his presidency. Trump has to have way more than 4.

Either way, the point I was making posting this is that mass shootings have been a problem for a long time, regardless of presidents.
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But the numbers are steadily increasing. And just because a problem has been occurring for a long time does not mean that there should not be an effort made to try to curtail it.

And the fact that there is not a solid definition of what constitutes a "mass shooting" just shows how little is being done about it.
 
JazzGal said:
But the numbers are steadily increasing. And just because a problem has been occurring for a long time does not mean that there should not be an effort made to try to curtail it.

And the fact that there is not a solid definition of what constitutes a "mass shooting" just shows how little is being done about it.
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Do you have a link that shows mass shootings are on the rise or increasing?

The crazy thing is, mass shootings are such a small percentage of deadly shootings and get so much more exposure. I understand why, but ultimately, I really hate guns. I don't trust others owning them.

If guns weren't around, a lot more people would be. Sign me up to live in that world, please.
 
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So I looked up the mass shooting numbers on Washington Posts website which excludes shootings that took place at the shooters home and gang related shootings and robberies and came up with 20 in Trump's two and a half years and 44 under Obama in 8. The numbers drop to 23 under Bush's eight years, and 29 under Clinton. In the 60's 70's and 80's the drop off is precipitous.

So yeah, definitely an issue that's been plaguing us mostly the last few decades, but seems to be progressively getting worse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/mass-shootings-in-america/
 
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Archie Moses said:
I think it wasn't updated to reflect the last 3. That said, saying 250 is a bit hyperbolic.
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I saw something a while back saying we were at 249. Maybe it was supposed to be how many deaths from mass shooters.

I think it was in this very thread

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fishonjazz said:
I saw something a while back saying we were at 249. Maybe it was supposed to be how many deaths from mass shooters.

I think it was in this very thread

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That seems more likely. 249 is a crazy number, or it could be counting every shooting with multiple casualties.

Edit. Just looked it up. That statistic included every shooting with four or more casualties, 129 in which no one was killed. I don't think they filtered out gang shootings or domestic disputes at all.
 
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Lmao his wife put him on blast.
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If this is really what he was doing, then he’s as stupid as somebody aggressively confronting an officer during an arrest.

He’s lucky he wasn’t killed. That firefighter very easily could have been scared for his life and everyone around and shot him dead. Ask questions later.

Dumbasses come in all shapes and sizes. I’m not a big fan of open carry for exactly this reason. It’s too easy for a scared person (or the police) to escalate a situation that doesn’t need to be escalated.
 
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