El Paso Shooting

[JazzyFresh]

Post through it bud

Nah if dude has to lie about something as petty as that, then what else would he lie about?

 

[fishonjazz]

Imagine being black and seeing the news and how many innocent blacks are shot and killed by cops for absurd reasons. Then imagine at the same time having **** like that happen to you, not even necessarily once a month like Log said, but once every 3-4 months. The thoughts lingering, eating away at your fiber as a being, your humanity like a cancer eating away at any love in your heart and filling it with angst. And having that happen for a year or two. A decade or two. Every 3-4 months. Over and over. That **** destroys a soul.

Don't tell hack. He thinks cops treat black people the same as white people.

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[str8line]

I was with my boss the other day, our VP. We went to lunch. He drove and we were in his somewhat older beat up truck. Oh yeah, and he's black. So we went to this Baker's and parked on the street a bit down the road from the place because it was busy. It was Friday and we were both in casual clothes, he was in a plain t-shirt and jeans. We walked by 3 cops who had probably just been there for lunch. He was ahead of me a bit because I took a phone call. They stopped him and were talking to him. I saw him give them his license. I caught up when they handed it back. We walked on but I could feel everything was very tense. I had noticed 2 of the cops had their hands on their tasers, maybe guns but I thought it was their tasers. As I walked by I just said "hi officers" and they said hi and we moved on. He said they stopped him, asked why he parked where he did. Wanted to see his ID. It was surreal for me. It was all too real for him. He said he gets stopped a few times a month for stuff like that. One of the cops was also black, one Hispanic, the other white.

As a white man I never get stopped.

This is a huge issue that needs to be fixed.

Trump's SS. He's emboldening this kind of behavior from police, but it really got worse starting with the Patriot Act. Police don't operate under "To Protect And Serve" anymore. There are a ton of good cops still but there are a lot more bad cops than there used to be. I've interacted with police enough to know that 1/4 of my interactions with police have been with douchebags who aren't fit to wear the badge.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Imagine being black and seeing the news and how many innocent blacks are shot and killed by cops for absurd reasons. Then imagine at the same time having **** like that happen to you, not even necessarily once a month like Log said, but once every 3-4 months. The thoughts lingering, eating away at your fiber as a being, your humanity like a cancer eating away at any love in your heart and filling it with angst. And having that happen for a year or two. A decade or two. Every 3-4 months. Over and over. That **** destroys a soul.

Good post.

Yet, a certain demographic of our population would label you a social justice warrior or anti cops for daring to admit that there’s ever been an inequality in the treatment of blacks in our country. Heck, this demographic gets triggered when a handful of black athletes take knees before football games to protest their inequality.

I think a big part of our problems could be resolved with empathy. Would white people like to be treated like criminals? So why treat blacks that way?

 

[JazzyFresh]

Not as bad as getting triggered over a smiling photo I guess.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Trump's SS. He's emboldening this kind of behavior from police, but it really got worse starting with the Patriot Act. Police don't operate under "To Serve And Protect" anymore. There are a ton of good cops still but there are a lot more bad cops than there used to be. I've interacted with police enough to know that 1/4 of my interactions with police have been with douchebags who aren't fit to wear the badge.

A big part of the problem is we get what we pay for.

Who would want this terrible paying job with benefits that are continually slashed?

 

[Deleted member 365]

I really hope these representatives have good security. This commentary does nothing constructive. We’ve already seen what his rhetoric has done at campaign rallies, bombers living in white vans, and racist young males with way too easy access to guns.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Yet calling the POTUS a white supremacists and nearly every name in the book for 3 straight years is acceptable.

People sure can dish it yet get triggered when it's dished back.

 

[jazzrule]

Trump's SS. He's emboldening this kind of behavior from police, but it really got worse starting with the Patriot Act. Police don't operate under "To Protect And Serve" anymore. There are a ton of good cops still but there are a lot more bad cops than there used to be. I've interacted with police enough to know that 1/4 of my interactions with police have been with douchebags who aren't fit to wear the badge.

And how have you interacted with police? How many times? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[fishonjazz]

I really hope these representatives have good security. This commentary does nothing constructive. We’ve already seen what his rhetoric has done at campaign rallies, bombers living in white vans, and racist young males with way too easy access to guns.

Trump really tweeted that? Holy **** he is a clueless *******.
"They hate Israel and all Jewish people"
Wtf. Have they said that?

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[str8line]

And how have you interacted with police? How many times? Inquiring minds want to know.

Tons of times. Never arrested though. I've had a lot of interactions geting pulled over for speeding(only about 4 tickets total though). Several moving violations, some total BS. A bunch of interactions with friends, party's, etc. A bunch of interactions with OHV cops. I respect the job cops do immensely and there are a lot of damn fine cops. But lately it seems like half of them are power-tripping schmucks.

Worst was a cop trying to coerce me into a confession of street racing(for about 30 minutes in the back seat of his cruiser) when the guy behind me got in a head-on in the canyon. ****ing dude thought he was solving the OJ murders, and wouldn't take the truth for an answer. I was ahead of the accident victim in a sports car and he was in a sports car so they figured street-racing. I didn't stop when the crash happened because I figured I needed to get into cell reception to call 911 ASAP.

A couple of stories from the incident are below. Note my car is black and I came back down canyon after calling 911 and stopped to talk to police.

There were hundreds of comments to the story and most of them wanted to lynch me without knowing anything of what really happened. It was reaffirmation that you can't necessarily form a solid opinion based on a news article.

https://www.ksl.com/article/7711556/investigators-probe-big-cottonwood-wreck-that-injured-2

https://www.ksl.com/article/7747348/witness-spoke-with-porsche-driver-after-big-cottonwood-cyn-wreck

 

[JazzGal]

Wow, that's quite an experience, str8line.

Almost every news story that I've known the behind-the-scenes info on has had many inaccuracies. It's frustrating to have to rely on news sources for accurate information. While I realize are they are doing their best (usually), there is so much that is incorrect or based on personal bias.