Election Count Issues

[Ron Mexico]

So I just got back from my Chinese communist party meeting. We outlined 2021. I have to apologise to @babe. He was actually right. China had at least 10 bullet points about targeting him. They then had a few pictures of him during the power point presentation. At first I was pretty shocked but then they explained their plan. It makes sense now, taking over the world and corrupting usa is just the long term plan so the can get babe.

 

[Stars Fan]

Worse are his followers imo. We already knew he was a piece of **** so this is all just par for the course. But all those people supporting this are just unbelievable. Far worse than Trump himself, imo, because they should know better. But they go against their understanding of good vs evil and knowingly embrace the evil. I have friends I'll probably never be friends with again. Not because I'll shut them out but because they choose to separate the relationship through rabid promoting of Trump's lies. He has far and away been the most divisive "leader" in American history.

Sadly, I can relate to this. However, 2021 is a new year, and I hope to heal many relationships that I thought were dead and gone. I pray we can leave Trumpism in the dust in the coming months. In any case, I wish all the best to you and yours.

 

[fishonjazz]

I know it's useless.

This side of the political divide is getting more and more intolerant.

Well, I brought Sidney Powell in on the OP. Things are really getting wild now. Here's some current developments.

Of course, as a long-time student of everything anti-Establishment, aka "Conspiracy Theory", what can I say. Instituitions generally diss any criticism or negative speculation, so that makes people who rely on the diss "Conspiracy Theory" pretty much "Statists" or Defenders of some damn political faith.

And of course, the lapdog media...... considering Trump to be the outsider and Biden the "insider", really piles on the Conspiracy Theory crap whate4ver anyone says.

Is it a conspiracy theory that Epstein was a perv who served the rich and important, including political wonks? It was until he was actually rounded up and convicted.

Sidney Powell's allegations on the Dominion vote machines were actually first brought up by some democrats, before this election ever happened. Tracing the actual location of the corporate entities that owned the machines and the software does take you off the beaten path..... Venezuela, for example, and there is Chinese ownership in some ways involved. British sorts as well.

The machines have now been proven to be capable of what was alledged.

But my hat goes off to Lin Wood who is out there citing standard conspiracy allegations about Chief Justice Roberts, just like folks were doing for Bill Clinton thirty ears ago. Alex Jones is perhaps the foremost alleger of Devil-worshipping child abusers holding public office.....

The problem is just this. It does not help for mainstream authorities to diss any charges without some damn investigation, done impartially of course.

The whole thing about dissing election fraud without actually serving subpoenas or sending out investigators just triggers a lot of people.

But I think that fits if the game plan were indeed, as some allege, is to take down the US as the leader of the New World Order, putting China up front.,

Ignoring China or not investigating Chinese influence in our elections....... wow.

Did you know that epstein is still alive?

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[Avery]

So I just got back from my Chinese communist party meeting. We outlined 2021. I have to apologise to @babe. He was actually right. China had at least 10 bullet points about targeting him. They then had a few pictures of him during the power point presentation. At first I was pretty shocked but then they explained their plan. It makes sense now, taking over the world and corrupting usa is just the long term plan so the can get babe.

I have to admit, the refreshments they served were killer. Best donut holes I’ve ever eaten.

 

[babe]

That took a lot of words for you to say nothing.

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In a perfectly reciprocal universe, it also takes a lot of brains to understand nothing.

I love cows. They listen and understand, obviously, better than JFC folks.

 

[Keefe]

So I just got back from my Chinese communist party meeting. We outlined 2021. I have to apologise to @babe. He was actually right. China had at least 10 bullet points about targeting him. They then had a few pictures of him during the power point presentation. At first I was pretty shocked but then they explained their plan. It makes sense now, taking over the world and corrupting usa is just the long term plan so the can get babe.

This is ********. No one uses PowerPoint any more.

 

[babe]

Sadly, I can relate to this. However, 2021 is a new year, and I hope to heal many relationships that I thought were dead and gone. I pray we can leave Trumpism in the dust in the coming months. In any case, I wish all the best to you and yours.

This is at least a sensible and compassionate view, though perhaps misinformed.

Trumpism is a myth..

He found a breeze at his back, and said what people wanted to hear. The idea of MAGA will persist without him, and maybe find more sincere and less gullible and less credulous proponents. People are outraged by the "Steal" and disgusted with the media bias. Anyone who can just stand up in front of that strengthening =public perception will be another, perhaps more serious, figurehead.

I think Trump will next turn to helping establish that prospect.

You have taken down one clown, but the movement will find serous, competent leadership.

I don't think the idea of taking down America is accomplished yet. There will be "Biden" (really more like Obama) moves to solidify control of the media and the elections, bring in foreign actors to bolster disorder and enhance corporate cronyism/cartelism...... breaking down American middle class structures and wages. More Antifa and BLM types of organizations pushing the envelope on social change/populace control, new pandemics and financial emergencies with more mandates, and more wreckage of small businesses.

It is perhaps advantageous for the central planners and managers to have a somnolescent figurehead instead of a hammer handed noncompliant President, and in fact I don't think Kamala will be that manageable. She will be more of a Marcos-type with a penchant for actually exerting personal power, rahter than follow the program. Unsuitable, really.

In short, the forces promoting the program will be forced to go even more intolerant and even more oppressive, but I don't think the program will work.

Inside two years you will see coming apart at the seams, with the big honchos turning on one another, and some of them getting the ax in the media, in a desperate effort to save the cause.

 

[babe]

So I just got back from my Chinese communist party meeting. We outlined 2021. I have to apologise to @babe. He was actually right. China had at least 10 bullet points about targeting him. They then had a few pictures of him during the power point presentation. At first I was pretty shocked but then they explained their plan. It makes sense now, taking over the world and corrupting usa is just the long term plan so the can get babe.

A more realistic outlook would have me getting an invitation to come to China and getting special treatment. No, not a midnight hustle to the camps, but an invitation to dine with Xi. Xi likes good advice, and wants to understand Americans.

 

[Ron Mexico]

This is ********. No one uses PowerPoint any more.

China does for everything.

I've never made more PPTs then I have in the last year. Anytime I have to talk to a group they ask me to put together one. My PhD classes are even asking me to do them for class discussions and to make then PhD level good. I literally never made a PowerPoint for any of my other degrees. It was a shock to my team I was training that I can talk without a PowerPoint or notes, haha.

 

[Ron Mexico]

A more realistic outlook would have me getting an invitation to come to China and getting special treatment. No, not a midnight hustle to the camps, but an invitation to dine with Xi. Xi likes good advice, and wants to understand Americans.

I agree about Xi, I'm failing to see why that would involve you. I guess if he wants a recap of what the conservative radio hosts opinions/loud crap are he might bring you.

 

[babe]

I agree about Xi, I'm failing to see why that would involve you. I guess if he wants a recap of what the conservative radio hosts opinions/loud crap are he might bring you.

I'm sure he has a significant team on this job already.

The other thing Xi might want to try is to offer me some moolah to sway some players on the issue.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I'm sure he has a significant team on this job already.

The other thing Xi might want to try is to offer me some moolah to sway some players on the issue.

That makes sense, you seem to have a lot of people you could sway.

 

[Gameface]

I'm sure he has a significant team on this job already.

The other thing Xi might want to try is to offer me some moolah to sway some players on the issue.

Oh yeah, you def want to get in on some of that Xi money. I was doing that for a bit but then he and Soros disagreed on something and I had to choose if I wanted the Soros money or the Xi money and, duh, I went with the Soros money because I can take the Soros money and the ACORN money at the same time no prob.

 

[Gameface]

I'm waiting for Trump or one of his lawyers to explain that Trump was President in 2020 and since it is now 2020 won that means that Trump won and gets to continue to be the President, because obviously. Not to mention Hunter Biden's laptop, which you've never heard of because the lamestream media never told you about it.

 

[fishonjazz]

At least throughout all this horrible BS that Trump has done since the election there has been some pretty good laughs.

Guliani with the my cousin vinny quote and hair dye running down his face

Rudy getting exposed on Borat

Booking the 4 seasons landscaping company

Mike pence with a fly on his head

Rudy farting on the mic

Intoxicated team trump "witness" acting so unhinged that Rudy had to shush her

Recounts in milwaukee (that Trump had to pay for) adding to Bidens lead over trump

Today I learned that Trump booked VANILLA FREAKING ICE for his new years party at mar a lago lolololol. I saw a video with Ice performing on stage at the party that was filmed by donald trump jr and jr looked so excited to be able to see the great vanilla ice perform. I wonder what song vanilla ice performed. Ice ice baby? Then just left? How did they manage to get him? Im shocked that vanilla ice was available.
That's the best that president trump could get at his party?

Oh and then there are the around 70 court losses.

How do people still have faith in this incompetent clown show?



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[The Thriller]

At least throughout all this horrible BS that Trump has done since the election there has been some pretty good laughs.

Guliani with the my cousin vinny quote and hair dye running down his face

Rudy getting exposed on Borat

Booking the 4 seasons landscaping company

Mike pence with a fly on his head

Rudy farting on the mic

Intoxicated team trump "witness" acting so unhinged that Rudy had to shush her

Recounts in milwaukee (that Trump had to pay for) adding to Bidens lead over trump

Today I learned that Trump booked VANILLA FREAKING ICE for his new years party at mar a lago lolololol. I saw a video with Ice performing on stage at the party that was filmed by donald trump jr and jr looked so excited to be able to see the great vanilla ice perform. I wonder what song vanilla ice performed. Ice ice baby? Then just left? How did they manage to get him? Im shocked that vanilla ice was available.
That's the best that president trump could get at his party?

Oh and then there are the around 70 court losses.

How do people still have faith in this incompetent clown show?



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He hates immigrants and whines about elites. Which is what apparently a lot of Americans hate too. They hate immigrants and hate smart people who they feel look down upon them.

 

[fishonjazz]

So the latest lawsuit filed by the corrupt republican politicians basically is trying to make it so Mike pence simply chooses who wins the election.
No need to even have people vote anymore apparently. Simply let the vice president (who was on the ballot mind you) determine the winner of elections from now on. Great idea, ****ing idiot.

Pence may choose 2020 election winner ‘as he sees fit,’ Gohmert says in court filing

Gohmert’s new brief contends that the Constitution effectively makes Pence the sole arbiter of which electoral votes to count during the Jan. 6 session of Congress to certify the election.

www.politico.com

I mean do republican voters (not politicians) actually support simply letting the vice president decide elections from now on rather than the people? Shouldn't this upset people?

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[Gameface]

So the latest lawsuit filed by the corrupt republican politicians basically is trying to make it so Mike pence simply chooses who wins the election.
No need to even have people vote anymore apparently. Simply let the vice president (who was on the ballot mind you) determine the winner of elections from now on. Great idea, ****ing idiot.

Pence may choose 2020 election winner ‘as he sees fit,’ Gohmert says in court filing

Gohmert’s new brief contends that the Constitution effectively makes Pence the sole arbiter of which electoral votes to count during the Jan. 6 session of Congress to certify the election.

www.politico.com

I mean do republican voters (not politicians) actually support simply letting the vice president decide elections from now on rather than the people? Shouldn't this upset people?

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Well, Fish, that clearly depends... Will it be a Republican VP making the decision or a pinko commie socialist libtard Demoncrat?

 

[fishonjazz]

So let's say that lawsuit worked and pence simply disregarded all the votes and picked trump as president. Would those of you who voted for trump be happy about that? (I know none of you will actually answer this question but I would hope that Trump is less important to you than democracy is)
That is something that Russia or china would do.
Democracy would effectively be over with. Those in power could simply choose how long they want to stay in power and the will of the people would mean nothing.

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[Gameface]

I think Republicans are building a new narrative. The idea here is interesting in how stupid it is. They are claiming that because courts are dismissing their cases that there is no way for them to present the facts of their allegations.

News flash!!! HOT TIP!!! Facts are facts. They can be presented inside, outside, on the other side, backwards, forwards, whatever, if you have facts you scream them from the mountain tops. People are acting like some court has to first give these baseless claims a hearing so that the election fraud allegations can be sprung on us in some dramatic reality TV fashion. They are literally acting like it is an injustice that this spectacle not be allowed to proceed.

Facts and evidence are not protected until trial, you are free to discuss facts and evidence at any point, inside or outside a courtroom (obviously subject to a gag order which is not relevant in this discussion, because none have been issued) before a judge allows it to be entered into official testimony in a trial. You DO NOT need a judge's approval before speaking the truth.

So if Trump's lawyers or campaign have any evidence they do no harm to any legal case or any appeal or anything at all by just presenting that evidence. On the other hand, they lose many avenues of redress the longer they wait to present their evidence. Yet they present no evidence. Yet they present no evidence.