RandyForRubio
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Y’all said that two years ago, and yet here we are.
As long as the economy is doing well, support will be there for Trump.
As long as the economy is doing well, support will be there for Trump.
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And the judiciary has and continues to be dramatically changed for decades to come.
RandyForRubio
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Oh sure.
But once the democrats are back in power they’ll pack the Supreme Court. Because when you can’t pass “laws” through the House or Senate, you use the SC.
It’s awful, and I hate it. But it’s where we are. The House will not work across lines. The Senate will not work across lines. The House and Senate won’t work together. And the President won’t work across lines (and it wasn’t just Trump either). The political divide is increasing, and the more it increases, the less **** will actually get done and the more we’ll complain and blame the side we don’t like.
Let's be clear: not working across the aisle was a strategy set by Gingrich to put the Republicans in power, which they have adopted whole-heartedly. There is not equal blame here.
Stars Fan
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Here we are.
Progress.
Democrats have the House, and are better positioned for the future. This is not a short term prediction, but one for the long term.
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DutchJazzer
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how is it changed. there are constituionalist put in. those people keep **** the same.
Obama put in people who think the constitution is a living document. those people are changing the SC!
constitutionalism conserve it keep it the same
Stars Fan
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The court will be the conservative defense against liberalism or it will be irrelevant. If it takes the conservative line, it will further drive the rising generation to the left. Gay rights, and women's rights to choose are not going to be things people will compromise on. They will hold the Republicans responsible.
I hope, and believe.
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Well, you know, DJ, I believe in socialism; One Brow and I are in agreement on that. Actually, we agree about a lot of things -- just a personal dust-up we had. If we actually knew each other personally, we probably could be friends.
The problem with socialism is that human race is still too selfish for it to work -- at least the values of most are not developed enough. Maybe in the future when we have a more enlightened, educated society, we can make it work.
Also, gun control works -- look at the UK, very few murders there, per capita
DutchJazzer
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lol, they better hope the economy doesn't crash in the coming 18 months! because then their will be a redwave! they will get the blame
RandyForRubio
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Oh for sure, Newt did more of it than others before.
Everybody does it now. And I think it’s stupid. And I will continue to think so.
The Thriller
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And clearly a strategy rejected by democrats and President Obama when in power. Obamacare was essentially the republican solution to health care. They made many concessions to republicans during the health care debates. It was republicans who rejected voting for it despite being allowed input, in order to “make Obama a one term president.”
It was one side that destroyed democratic traditions.
I think the only thing you could attack democrats for was Harry Reid repealing the filibuster and allowing the “nuclear option.” But that was done as a reaction to unprecedented republican obstruction to appointing Obama’s judges.
The Thriller
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I love when republicans complain about liberals not abiding by the constitution. Remind me again, was it obama who threatened to abolish the 14tth?
DutchJazzer
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ok, good to know u support socialism. where Cuba sold 12000 doctors into SLAVERY to Brazil! yes they litterally enslave medical students the moemnt they become doctors and sent them to foreign countries to work. away from their family and children. and if they descent their family suffers the consequences!
the evil right wing president will put an end to this ****. ooh how dare that evil anti Semite in Brazil end slavery right?
you support socialism.
you scream about gun control which cost about 17000 lives in usa,. which is NOTHING per capita!
compare that to the people suffering in venezuela? trust me you have noo ****ing idea how worse it is there!
these people do not need to become refugees and flee America and then vote for the same **** that destroyed their country!
they need to fight back. they need to fight for their liberty. only way to build up a country is through Freedom, faree and fair trade. and unreguulated capitalism!
yes lazy people will starve and suffer, but charity can then TEACH EM, how to be responsible ****ing adutls and take care of themself! you want my charity. ok i will give you my charity. but we also get you a suit and a haircut. then we work on getting you A JAY OOOOOO BEEEEEEEEEEE! and my patience is not unlimited like the government that you can leech till the end of time. the moment you stop trying my charity STOPPED! that is why socialism dont work. their is not one bit of accountability, not one bit of responsibility!
maybe you need to travel the world, come with me. from islamic no go zones to, backstreets of latin america. maybe your eyes will OPEN!
RandyForRubio
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Herp derp national popular vote for the senate!
You’re not allowed to talk after that.
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You are very ignorant for a man of your ethnicity. Most of the Jewish people I know are very intelligent, literate, and compassionate people. You are none of those.
RandyForRubio
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Wasn’t aware there were levels of ignorance when it comes to ethnicities. Care to expound on that Eenie?
Wow.
Stars Fan
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Trump nominated Kavanaugh because of his views on presidential powers. It's fairly clear that Kavanaugh would shield the presidency from special prosecutors.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/04/kavanaugh-trump-mueller-executive-power-219634
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/k...icle-on-investigations-of-sitting-presidents/
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In my experience, Jewish culture is probably the most literate and educated of any I have interacted with -- it doesn't mean there aren't people who are Jewish who are not literate, just as there are some African-Americans who are not good athletes, everyone is different, everyone has their talents. It's just that Jewish families put a premium on education and being very literate, more so than other cultures in the U.S. It doesn't necessarily mean they are more intelligent. I can't include Asian cultures because I don't have enough experience to compare. DJ is a lunatic, an outlier in my experience. He equates governments that called themselves socialist with real socialism, governments that were totalitarian and severely punished those who didn't comply with the rules, governments that broke all the rules of basic human decency. Real socialism is democratic; it looks to the needs of the people, all the people, and not those of a select group as the so-called socialist governments DJ talks about. Capitalism is by nature, opportunistic, seeking advantages to advance the goals of individuals over the group, or an organization over others no matter the consequences to the others. In its pure form, it's ruthless competition, which is what is happening now around the world because of the lack of government regulation. You could say we do that in competitive sports, but in sports, it is different. No one dies, goes hungry or homeless, doesn't get healthcare, is treated as subhuman or killed because of their race. It's healthy competition. In the rat race of capitalism, it doesn't matter what happens to your opponent, there is no ethics or compassion -- the bottom line rules, is the dictator. Marx was right, unregulated capitalism leads to monopolies and what most people don't understand, Marx said it would work only in the most advanced, industrial nations, not agriculturally-based nations like Russia was, or third-world countries with small industrial bases because they can't supply enough production to meet the needs of their populations. I think the model of regulated capitalism is a good compromise between the systems and is what our nation was on target to achieve, despite some problems, after WW II. We went awry though when we became such a huge military power that imposed its will on the rest of the world after the war and created the biggest entitlement program, the defense budget, and allocated a minimum of 15 percent of the nation to the military annually. Of course, this number rose during the overt conflicts we engaged in, like Korea and Vietnam, and the two Iraq wars. There have been books written about this, our "permanent military economy," that we would go into a Depression without the support of military spending. It's like our nation was hooked on a drug, in this case, military spending. And the waste in this is atrocious. We have spent literally billions of dollars on weapons that never were used and trillions of dollars on wars that never solved anything but killed millions like in Vietnam and Iraq, and yet we continue to glorify our military because it keeps us safe -- safe from what, people who want to control their own resources who don't want intrusion of American military bases protecting the assets of American corporations who are literally stealing the resources of other nations. Both Truman and Eisenhower understood this -- remember Ike's warning about the military-industrial complex, and Truman's regret about the growth of the covert operations of the CIA, which became its predominant function in maintaining control of other nations for the benefit of U.S. corporations and which engaged in drug-dealing and the black market arms trade to supply dictatorships. The Kennedys, while being "Cold Warriors" began to understand this and started to take steps to change things. Two of their goals were to get out of Vietnam and to limit the covert functions of the CIA. Unfortunately, the nefarious powers of the defense department and the CIA, which masterminded their assassinations, made sure this wouldn't happen. This was probably the beginning of the end of the democracy we were aspiring to and things have only gotten worse ever since, especially after Reagan came to power. Now we actually have a man as President who wants to become our first dictator.
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I still don't buy the economy is doing well claim. Based on what? You have something concrete besides some statistics without any sources to verify? How does this figure in the long-term? Why are so many traditional businesses going bankrupt? Why are people's salaries remaining stagnant while the cost of living rises? Why is healthcare getting more expensive and real estate prices rising so precipitously? So, the stock market is rising, but how many people do you think that benefits -- only a very small minority of the population. Yeah, the economy is good for a few people but not most, and it's the most bang for the buck, the most people who should benefit in a good economy like our most prosperous years during the 1950s. But that was a different era when there was actual regulation of the corporations.