Yeah they found their leader and treated him like a rockstar... Our issues don't go away when he does. Its a start in the right direction though... maybe.
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They aren't simply racist though. This isn't all about race. Its about democracy and power and conspiracy theories and alternate facts and tyranny etc etc.
Saint Cy of JFC
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The bottom line is that poor people are suffering and the middle class is shrinking. If this continues to happen you will continue to see people devolve into these easily manipulated mindsets where they are susceptible to things like Qanon. The pandemic has only expanded the wealth gap and made people more aware of it.
I disagree that the senate race broke them. They were headed to washington to protest regardless of what happened in georgia. Trump losing is what broke them.
Saint Cy of JFC
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I think it's largely about race. It's, in my view, the primary tenet of "Trumpism".
Example:
This is a politician adopting "Trumpism" as I see it. A clear appeal to racism to win over the racist white voter. A signal that says "Hey, even though I'm a rich multi-millionaire who committed insider trading based off covid intel that I later denied, I'm actually just like you because I dont like these brown people either"
Saint Cy of JFC
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Yeah, it'd be wild to have a political discussion with someone who is actually for changing things and not just returning to the status quo that made these things happen.
Saint Cy of JFC
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I agree that racism is a large part of Trumpism, and perhaps the biggest reason that he has been able to convert so many to the cult. That seems to be true for the members of my family that are his supporters. Yet there are so many other issues that appealed to others as well. For some reason, people seem to want a more authoritative government, a dictator if you will, someone who they believe will fix everything for them. Some people hate Congress and think that it would be better if all decisions were made by one man who believes what they believe. For some reason, they think that would be freedom. Thankfully, they are not a majority, but it is still worrying.
Saint Cy of JFC
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I agree with much of what you say, but I don't think that it's Warnock's victory that "broke them." I think this was likely to happen regardless of yesterday's vote. Their plans were made well before the vote took place. I don't think it would have just been a peaceful rally except for the Georgia outcome.
But you live in a different place than I do, so maybe you have insight that I don't.
Modern Republicanism has expanded the wealth gap as much as any other contributor. Remember trickle-down theory?
These people apparently love their losers - the Confederacy and Trump.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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The Eurocentric majority is getting too narrow to guarantee political victory now. Which is why the distinction between Trumpism and general nationalism is important.
Trumpism is more of a cult of personality. The true target of the movement and its violence is liberal elitism, which has always looked down on working class whites.
The Thriller
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I wouldn’t go this far. This party is still very much alive. They’re a dozen seats away from controlling the house. One seat away from controlling the senate. a handful of swing states away from controlling the White House. and they still control the majority of state legislatures and Governor mansions. They’re still far better funded and organized than Democrats. The richest in America fund Republicans. They have countless think tanks like Heritage, CATO, Turning Point, and ALEC. They have the Federalist society that promotes ideologues to fill the court system. They have an unholy alliance with most Christian religions in America. That means that despite shrinking white evangelicals they’re gaining ground with Catholic Hispanics. Finally, they have the most comprehensive propaganda network in the history of mankind. From professional looking Fox News, to omnipresent am radio, to the best organizer for disinformation and protest, Facebook.
The Republican Party is still very much alive even in its current Trump state. Just watch, they’ll go back to obstructing everything starting Jan 20 and will most likely retake the Congress at the 2022 midterms, making Biden a lame duck president. this is why the next two years are key to repairing our democracy. Democrats should focus on voting rights and keeping their wide diverse base engaged at the local level and voting. We know Republicans are going to be come 2022. We need repeated Republican defeats and to send them into the wildness for a generation to bring balance to our country. Only once the poison that the Kochs and Fox News provide doesnt sell in winning state legislatures and congress will we finally see real reform in right wing media and the Republican Party.
The Thriller
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The Thriller
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Republicans are competing well with Hispanic catholic voters. So even though they’re seeing diminished return on white evangelicals, they’re seeing increased in Hispanic Catholics who identify as “white.” if it weren’t for African Americans, Democrats would be in trouble.
The Thriller
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It has been proven many times now that the driving force behind Trumpism isn’t “economic anxiety”, but racism. Sorry, but those with hordes of guns and body armor buying tickets to DC in January to LARP Rambo aren’t hurting for cash.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Currently, I think you are correct. But the Latino desire for (and performance of) “whiteness” may not age as well as conservatives hope it does.
Ourhistory of mixed races is rich enough to draw many of us back towards authentic ways of understanding our identity. Far more so, at least, than the fleeting machismo and cancerous arrogance of the Antebellum American mindset.