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Enes Kanter UPDATED Defensive Compilation

Also, adding a charge/flop game could probably do Kanter some good. Couple of the 1-on-1 plays he got beat on where the offensive player just lowered the shoulder into his chest, if he had better position and was heady enough to sell the calls, he could probably have turned a couple of those into charges.

What happens first: Kanter learns to pass or Kanter learns to play defense?

One of those has to happen for him to play with Favors and be a legit starter that helps the team more consistently than he hurts them.

Going to assume with Quinn being the coach, it's going to be passing, which would make me a happy camper. Kanter needs to develop high/low action with Booker/Favors/Gobert to make our offense reach it's potential. Que the Randolph/Gasol film study. Okur could also help with this, giving Kanter tips/suggestions on how to play off his jumper (if he develops it efficiently enough).

Overall just hope Quinn's IQ rubs off on all our IQ challenged big men.
 
Cy said:
The thing that has me hopeful about Kanter w/ Quinn is that Quinn is a headier, more IQ oriented coach. Maybe having someone as smart as Quinn will rub-off on Kanter, hopefully. Kanter may just be a mentally slow player, much like Al.
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AL just does not believe in playing defense...
 
Cy said:
Also, adding a charge/flop game could probably do Kanter some good. Couple of the 1-on-1 plays he got beat on where the offensive player just lowered the shoulder into his chest, if he had better position and was heady enough to sell the calls, he could probably have turned a couple of those into charges.

What happens first: Kanter learns to pass or Kanter learns to play defense?

One of those has to happen for him to play with Favors and be a legit starter that helps the team more consistently than he hurts them.

Going to assume with Quinn being the coach, it's going to be passing, which would make me a happy camper. Kanter needs to develop high/low action with Booker/Favors/Gobert to make our offense reach it's potential. Que the Randolph/Gasol film study. Okur could also help with this, giving Kanter tips/suggestions on how to play off his jumper (if he develops it efficiently enough).

Overall just hope Quinn's IQ rubs off on all our IQ challenged big men.
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I think that Corbin has done nothing to improve Kanters IN GAME PASSING abilities. In his Highschool Mix and Eurobasket 11 Mix Videos i saw a few great passes to lead the break after a defensive rebound. For Utah Jazz I can not remember him ever doing this. I do not think that Corbin really used all of Kanter´s talent as a player. As an example Kanter always was a good shooter with long range, but Corbin has recognized this first in his 2 Season for the Jazz...

What I want to say is that Quinn will help much more developing his game. Kanter finished the season strong and he will start even stronger the next one. But, thats just my opinion on this one. I would still trade the whole team in exchange for AL Jefferson.
 
CAKAR said:
I think that Corbin has done nothing to improve Kanters IN GAME PASSING abilities. In his Highschool Mix and Eurobasket 11 Mix Videos i saw a few great passes to lead the break after a defensive rebound. For Utah Jazz I can not remember him ever doing this. I do not think that Corbin really used all of Kanter´s talent as a player. As an example Kanter always was a good shooter with long range, but Corbin has recognized this first in his 2 Season for the Jazz...

What I want to say is that Quinn will help much more developing his game. Kanter finished the season strong and he will start even stronger the next one. But, thats just my opinion on this one. I would still trade the whole team in exchange for AL Jefferson.
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Maybe a lot of it was Corbin's fault, but then again, I remember Kanter freezing with the ball a lot of the time and having no idea what to do with it, and ended up just calling for someone to run by him for a dribble hand off. Hopefully Quin's system of quick passes will help Kanter get over the thinking part of the passing game and help him learn to just react quickly.
 
Cy said:
Maybe a lot of it was Corbin's fault, but then again, I remember Kanter freezing with the ball a lot of the time and having no idea what to do with it, and ended up just calling for someone to run by him for a dribble hand off. Hopefully Quin's system of quick passes will help Kanter get over the thinking part of the passing game and help him learn to just react quickly.
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Youre right but this is also because he had no confidence with the ball in his hands... Kanter has to play defense more active and Quin has to make clear that he has the green light to be productive with the ball in his hand. Like long interior passes after a rebound, or trying to making a pas after a pump fake, driving into the basket when their is no one to pass the ball etc... Corbin had no clue how to work with young players... I think that Quin will give every player freedom to make mistakes, as long as the player is willing to play active at both ends of the floor.

It was not just Corbin´s fault... Dude is also a young coach and was brought into a situation which was hard to handle at times. He is not the type of coach qualified to work with young players, he was overchallenged with the situation he was in. Working with more experienced players would be the better decision for him. Look how he reanimated R Jefferson and brought him back to Basketball. And do not forget that Corbin had a great look, dude knows how to dress. He always looked clean in his suit.
 
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Kanter doesn't have the length or fast hands to be a great defender. He's okay when he makes the effort and moves his feet. He moves better laterally than Boozer and Memo did, but that's not saying much. Tall players with a high release are going to get their jumpers off over him, but Kanter will stay in front normally if they put the ball on the floor.

Not sure what the scheme was on those pick-and-roll defensive plays.
 
Catchall said:
Kanter doesn't have the length or fast hands to be a great defender. He's okay when he makes the effort and moves his feet. He moves better laterally than Boozer and Memo did, but that's not saying much. Tall players with a high release are going to get their jumpers off over him, but Kanter will stay in front normally if they put the ball on the floor.

Not sure what the scheme was on those pick-and-roll defensive plays.
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Corbin was infamous for having inconsistent pick n' roll philosophy that consistently didn't make any sense.
 
Hole hell!

I hope he has some better defensive plays out there somewhere.


What I don't get about Kanter is his lack of athleticism even though he is built like a very good athlete.

It's weird how working out doesn't seem to help some people in the athleticism department. His height might have something to do with it, but that doesn't explain why other tall people can become athletic. It may have something to do with his body structure or mind. I tend to lean towards the latter, I think athleticism has a lot to do with your mind like other skills do..
 
Hack said:
Hole hell!

I hope he has some better defensive plays out there somewhere.


What I don't get about Kanter is his lack of athleticism even though he is built like a very good athlete.

It's weird how working out doesn't seem to help some people in the athleticism department. His height might have something to do with it, but that doesn't explain why other tall people can become athletic. It may have something to do with his body structure or mind. I tend to lean towards the latter, I think athleticism has a lot to do with your mind like other skills do..
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Or it has to do with the amount of fast twitch vs. slow twitch muscles in your body.....
 
Cy said:
Or it has to do with the amount of fast twitch vs. slow twitch muscles in your body.....
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I'm not a real doctor, I just play one on Jazzfanz.

I believe that athleticism can be learned by repetitive practice. Sure, there are genetical qualities that give one person an edge over another, and some don't need practice because they are naturals. Its not just about slow twitch and fast twitch fibers though. There are techniques that can be learned to improve jumping ability and speed, along with working out. Watch how high jumpers in the Olympics approach the jump. They've got very pronounced techniques when they do it. Jumping isn't just about raw power, you have to know how to build momentum and use leverage, and then push off just right. That kind of stuff is all in your mind.
 
CAKAR said:
I think that Corbin has done nothing to improve Kanters IN GAME PASSING abilities. In his Highschool Mix and Eurobasket 11 Mix Videos i saw a few great passes to lead the break after a defensive rebound. For Utah Jazz I can not remember him ever doing this. I do not think that Corbin really used all of Kanter´s talent as a player. As an example Kanter always was a good shooter with long range, but Corbin has recognized this first in his 2 Season for the Jazz...

What I want to say is that Quinn will help much more developing his game. Kanter finished the season strong and he will start even stronger the next one. But, thats just my opinion on this one. I would still trade the whole team in exchange for AL Jefferson.
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Do you think this schtick is ever going to get old for you?
 
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