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It seems like this is the thing that could sink Trump's ship.

Let me tell you how this plays out, the establishment press runs it, expect for the right wing establishment press, for them this never happened. The establishment press keeps running it, the Whitehouse and the right stone wall, and then the far right start spinning this as a conspiracy.

I also want to say that I have always felt like the most likely truth is that Epstein killed himself. The problem is that we have not had a full and open disclosure of the facts. I don't KNOW he killed himself and I can't, not anymore than anyone can KNOW that he didn't.

While I'm normally happy for peado's to be killed in prison, in fact I'm generally in favour of it, however there is no way this one should have been allowed to kill himself. There is no circumstances where a high value prisoner like this should have been allowed to kill himself. The failings involved in that being able to happen are staggering, how many people were fired or charged over it? If a patient died in seclusion at any of the mental health facilities I've worked in, there will be a police investigation, coronial investigation, people will lose their jobs, their registrations and if systemic breaches occur, prison time.

Now Epstein had some powerful enemies, state and non state, I reckon it was an inside job.
 
Let me tell you how this plays out, the establishment press runs it, expect for the right wing establishment press, for them this never happened. The establishment press keeps running it, the Whitehouse and the right stone wall, and then the far right start spinning this as a conspiracy.



While I'm normally happy for peado's to be killed in prison, in fact I'm generally in favour of it, however there is no way this one should have been allowed to kill himself. There is no circumstances where a high value prisoner like this should have been allowed to kill himself. The failings involved in that being able to happen are staggering, how many people were fired or charged over it? If a patient died in seclusion at any of the mental health facilities I've worked in, there will be a police investigation, coronial investigation, people will lose their jobs, their registrations and if systemic breaches occur, prison time.

Now Epstein had some powerful enemies, state and non state, I reckon it was an inside job.

100%. So predictable.
 
I mean why would Maga stop supporting Herr Trump at pedos? They're good with rape, abolishing the constitution, coups, etc. I'm actually surprised and a bit doubtful they care enough about Trump raping children to leave the cult.

Fully agreed. They’d likely rationalize it away or say, “Yeah but the girl looked 18 and probably liked it,” or some twisted ****.

It’s hilarious how all of my friends on the right haven’t mentioned it. Haven’t mentioned Trump giving $1,000 in an investment plan to every newborn starting in 2025–The Socialism!!!! Or how Trump and Republicans negatively drive up the national debt far worse than Democrats despite them being so “fiscally conservative.” They look the other way when it suits them. As does the left.
 
Fully agreed. They’d likely rationalize it away or say, “Yeah but the girl looked 18 and probably liked it,” or some twisted ****.

It’s hilarious how all of my friends on the right haven’t mentioned it. Haven’t mentioned Trump giving $1,000 in an investment plan to every newborn starting in 2025–The Socialism!!!! Or how Trump and Republicans negatively drive up the national debt far worse than Democrats despite them being so “fiscally conservative.” They look the other way when it suits them. As does the left.
Are you guys seeing the actual reaction of people like Laura Ingraham, Bannon and many YouTubers that have been huge MAGA voices? They aren't explaining this way. They are not shutting up about it.
 
Trump just losing 5 percent of his base to frustration over Epstein would be a significant loss for him. I certainly hope Democrats do more rat****ing of Trump. drive a wedge within MAGA. They might not give a **** about Jan 6 or losing Medicaid but by damn they want their appetite for conspiracies satiated.
Fully agreed. They’d likely rationalize it away or say, “Yeah but the girl looked 18 and probably liked it,” or some twisted ****.

It’s hilarious how all of my friends on the right haven’t mentioned it. Haven’t mentioned Trump giving $1,000 in an investment plan to every newborn starting in 2025–The Socialism!!!! Or how Trump and Republicans negatively drive up the national debt far worse than Democrats despite them being so “fiscally conservative.” They look the other way when it suits them. As does the left.
except, the left doesn’t look the other way to the extent that the right does. If both sides are the same then the extremism that has taken over the right isn’t exceptional (in reality, it is). It’s really frustrating when every critique of the right has to be followed up with a critique of the left. As if there needs to be balance. The fascists that have taken over the right is unique and isn’t equivalent to anything on the left.
 
Trump just losing 5 percent of his base to frustration over Epstein would be a significant loss for him. I certainly hope Democrats do more rat****ing of Trump. drive a wedge within MAGA. They might not give a **** about Jan 6 or losing Medicaid but by damn they want their appetite for conspiracies satiated.

except, the left doesn’t look the other way to the extent that the right does. If both sides are the same then the extremism that has taken over the right isn’t exceptional (in reality, it is). It’s really frustrating when every critique of the right has to be followed up with a critique of the left. As if there needs to be balance. The fascists that have taken over the right is unique and isn’t equivalent to anything on the left.
Ya saying the left and the right are the same is like saying Connor McGregor and Jeffrey Dahmer are the same. Sure they are both douchebags that like committing violent acts that hurt people but one is clearly much worse than the other.
 
Trump just losing 5 percent of his base to frustration over Epstein would be a significant loss for him. I certainly hope Democrats do more rat****ing of Trump. drive a wedge within MAGA. They might not give a **** about Jan 6 or losing Medicaid but by damn they want their appetite for conspiracies satiated.

except, the left doesn’t look the other way to the extent that the right does. If both sides are the same then the extremism that has taken over the right isn’t exceptional (in reality, it is). It’s really frustrating when every critique of the right has to be followed up with a critique of the left. As if there needs to be balance. The fascists that have taken over the right is unique and isn’t equivalent to anything on the left.
Apparently, rat****ing also refers to opening a case of MREs and taking just the good bits from each package (the cookies, for example) and leaving the rest in the rat**** box.
 
Are you guys seeing the actual reaction of people like Laura Ingraham, Bannon and many YouTubers that have been huge MAGA voices? They aren't explaining this way. They are not shutting up about it.

It’s a facade. It’s a portion of his supporters pretending as if they want the truth exposed. You need some of the GOP to do that to quell the unruly.
 
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Hard to believe that this guy was such a pedo…

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Wonder why he’s so defensive? I love how he’s asking why his base is so obsessed with Epstein. As if Donald hadn’t fed into Qanon/pedo conspiracies for years.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/rZHgDbCtRG4?feature=shared
 
Hard to believe that this guy was such a pedo…

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Interesting:

View: https://bsky.app/profile/markjacob.bsky.social/post/3ltu6vlrbpc23

Very interesting


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View: https://bsky.app/profile/twitterrefugeeog.bsky.social/post/3ltum7pvvss22


Wonder why he’s so defensive? I love how he’s asking why his base is so obsessed with Epstein. As if Donald hadn’t fed into Qanon/pedo conspiracies for years.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/rZHgDbCtRG4?feature=shared


Yep...
 
I just want to reiterate that the emotion of the MAGA base here is not about children being victimized by pedophiles. This was supposed to be a nuke they were going to drop to own the libs. I honestly believe that if Trump is front and center on the list he would have been better off releasing it and making excuses about why his name is on it than what is happening now. They would have believed his lie or done the mental gymnastics many mention above. But Trump is tearing down the monkey bars with the way this is being handled, no one is going to be able to do the back flips necessary to make this make sense.

He is blue balling the MAGA base. That is where the passion is coming from. That is where the anger and frustration are coming from. That is why this one is different. This was a major conspiracy that has been being driven by MAGA (and face it, most of you reading this, regardless of party, have adopted a B-grade Hollywood script as your idea of what "really happened") with promises that they would validate all those who so diligently "do their own research." Now not only are they withholding that validation, but doing so in a way that rips the blinders off the cultists and allowing them to finally see that the emperor has no clothes.

The funniest thing to me would be if they don't even have the list. I mean a list exists, that's what Epstein was doing, collecting blackmail bait. But that doesn't mean the FBI is in possession of it. None of this means Epstein didn't kill himself. They might be finally being honest that what they released is what they have, but they either do have a lot more or pretended to have a lot more.

I'll liken it to Saddam Hussein. He pretended he had WMDs to protect himself from Iran. The U.S. used his bluff to justify an invasion. Maybe we knew he didn't have any, maybe we didn't, but it didn't matter either way, it gave us everything we needed to invade. Trump claimed there was a list and that he would be the one to release it. His base is going to get that list or burn this **** to the ground.
 
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