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[One Brow]

Gay marriage has been legal across the country for 47 years?

In 47 years, no clergy person and no church has ever been force to perform an interracial marriage. It will be no different for gay marriage.

 

[LogGrad98]

In 47 years, no clergy person and no church has ever been force to perform an interracial marriage. It will be no different for gay marriage.

You have far more blind faith in our government than I do.

 

[LogGrad98]

In 47 years, no clergy person and no church has ever been force to perform an interracial marriage. It will be no different for gay marriage.

You have far more blind faith in our government than I do.

 

[DutchJazzer]

That idea makes me sick personally.

If you are a business open to the public, you better serve the public. Otherwise, don't open your business to the public.

Say there is a small town in the middle of nowhere that has a whopping one grocery store ( Burlington Colorado comes to mind). Let's also say the nearest grocery store after that one is 30 miles away. If the owner of that store hates gays and refuses to serve maybe the 1 or 2 gay guys in town, does that mean they now have to move our drive 30 miles for groceries? I doubt public pressure is going to shut the place down, and there probably isn't a good financial incentive to open another store.

So again, when you open a business to the public, serve the public.

so you should force people to do stuff?

THAT IS WRONG


FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he aint hurting anyone by denying gays.


THAT IS FREEDOM!

 

[DutchJazzer]

So, let me get this straight. We shouldn't try to provide equal protection under the law to all, because some people might take it too far?

Ok, so let's force them gay people back into the closets where they belong, and once again deny them their equal protection under the law and full slate of civil rights, because some people might overreact. Yep, makes perfect sense to me.

IF and WHEN this becomes a real problem, and not just some isolated anecdotes, then we can deal with it as a serious problem. Discrimination against gays, however, much of it imposed by religious folk, has been a systematic and pervasive problem for millennia.

Fundamental Christianity will survive this just fine and will move on to find new 'out groups' to oppress.

By the way, I would stand with you to defend to the rights of religions and religious folks to practice their religion (provided it does not cross over into abuse, law breaking, etc.).

but gay guy has same right as straight guy.
a gay guy may may marry anywoman to procreate.
just like the strtaight guy

this hwole equal rights is HOGWASH

 

[DutchJazzer]

You have far more blind faith in our government than I do.

I agree governments suck balls.
not the cool kinda sucking.
the bad kinda sucking

 

[DutchJazzer]

I got a question about this business and sexual discrimination.
a pornography studio is a business right.
but what if he only makes straight porn.
what if all pornographers decide to make only straight porn

would government force them to make gay porn?



so what gives?


how come a bakery is forced to make wedding cakes with 2 dudes on top.
while a pornography studio is not?
is wedding cake a right pornography not?

 

[One Brow]

You have far more blind faith in our government than I do.

I don't qualify 47 years of empirical evidence as "blind faith" for some reason.

 

[One Brow]

how come a bakery is forced to make wedding cakes with 2 dudes on top.
while a pornography studio is not?
is wedding cake a right pornography not?

IANAL, but these are my understandings:

If a pornography studio offered to film any couple off the street, they would be required to film gay couples.

If a bakery only sold wedding cakes off the shelf, as opposed to making them to order, they could stock their shelves as they pleased.

 

[LogGrad98]

I don't qualify 47 years of empirical evidence as "blind faith" for some reason.

Empirical evidence of one particular situation. For any other situation it would still be an assumption. Not all Germans grow up to be Nazis, and after more than 47 years Russia is no longer communist.





Godwined that sucker! Woot!

 

[JAZZGASM]

Empirical evidence of one particular situation. For any other situation it would still be an assumption. Not all Germans grow up to be Nazis, and after more than 47 years Russia is no longer communist.





Godwined that sucker! Woot!

Someone once told me that if you aren't from the US of A then you are a Communist Nazi.

'merica.

 

[Gameface]

I got a question about this business and sexual discrimination.
a pornography studio is a business right.
but what if he only makes straight porn.
what if all pornographers decide to make only straight porn

would government force them to make gay porn?



so what gives?


how come a bakery is forced to make wedding cakes with 2 dudes on top.
while a pornography studio is not?
is wedding cake a right pornography not?

I'm quite sure that a bakery is not legally required to use any particular accessories or decorations. If a bakery only offers man-woman cake toppers they wouldn't be breaking the law. It would only be against the law to refuse to provide their existing services to someone based on that persons inclusion in a protected class.

Similarly, if there was a gay oriented cake shop and they refused to service "breeders" they would be breaking the same anti-discrimination law. As sexual orientation is a protected class.