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Favors and Burks are the future of the Utah Jazz

Basketball_Romantic23 said:
I think any great coach has to build the offensive around the strengths and talent of the team. If Burks can be effective in iso plays than why not run a few iso plays. i know i have said this over and over again but hear me again when i say burks is going to suprise a lot of people!
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SURPRISE: This guy is really Kobe Bryant!

SURPRISE: I wish this guy were as good as Almond was.

Either one would be a surprise. I hope it's the first surprise and not the second.
 
LogGrad98 said:
SURPRISE: This guy is really Kobe Bryant!

SURPRISE: I wish this guy were as good as Almond was.

Either one would be a surprise. I hope it's the first surprise and not the second.
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If alec burks ends up being worse than almond then i will voluntarily leave jazzfanz and never come back just to placte everyone for my utter stupidity! Alec Burks is so much, even worlds, better than Almond; he's a special player and special players don't come around every draft!!!!! :)
 
LogGrad98 said:
If Burks ends up as good as Magette that would be a great thing. Borderline all-star. Go-to player who can create his own shot. Remember, he can have the same skills and abilities without the attitude. If he becomes better than Magette then we have a wet-dream in the making.
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Yeah you have a great point!! :)
 
Basketball_Romantic23 said:
If alec burks ends up being worse than almond then i will voluntarily leave jazzfanz and never come back just to placte everyone for my utter stupidity! Alec Burks is so much, even worlds, better than Almond; he's a special player and special players don't come around every draft!!!!! :)
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. Almond, physically and athletically, was a clone of Burks coming out of college. He also had three point range which Burks has not shown yet. Defensively Almond was bad and that's the same negative strike scouts give Burks as well. I think Burks will be better obviously, it's the homer in all of us, history proves all rookies have a high bust percentage. Temper expectations.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Also, Millsap can't be a starting 4. Not because of his size, but because of lack of endurance for an 82 game season, or at least lack of ability to pace himself for an 82 game season.
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True. He has to play his a$$ off to compete with bigger, longer players.
 
Catchall said:
True. He has to play his a$$ off to compete with bigger, longer players.
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Only, again, it's not true. The commonly held belief that Millsap breaks down over the course of an 82 game season should have been put to rest after last season (and the previous season's playoffs). Yes, the year he started with Boozer out, he broke down over time, but he was playing through multiple injuries. Last season he was amazingly consistent from start to finish.
 
GVC said:
Only, again, it's not true. The commonly held belief that Millsap breaks down over the course of an 82 game season should have been put to rest after last season (and the previous season's playoffs). Yes, the year he started with Boozer out, he broke down over time, but he was playing through multiple injuries. Last season he was amazingly consistent from start to finish.
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You mean how he consistently forgot that rebounding is one of his most valuable skills?
 
Naturally I'll be rooting for the guy; but I have yet to see one thing about this kid to be overly excited about. Yeah, he talks up a good game and maybe he'll back it up. But to me his size, make-up, range and stats are eeriely similar to Quincy Lewis.

I'll be thrilled if this guy makes a solid contribution but my expectations are pretty low.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. Almond, physically and athletically, was a clone of Burks coming out of college. He also had three point range which Burks has not shown yet. Defensively Almond was bad and that's the same negative strike scouts give Burks as well. I think Burks will be better obviously, it's the homer in all of us, history proves all rookies have a high bust percentage. Temper expectations.
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I have not seen too many guys coming out of college that could do what Burks can. plus, Almond was about a year and a half older coming out of college, which can make a big difference. There are not a ton of guys that have the handles he has at his size. Burks will be excellent at getting to the rim and creating his own shot. You can compare Burks and Almond coming out of college by visiting these lnks from NBA draft.net

Burks: https://www.nbadraft.net/players/alec-burks

Almond: https://www.nbadraft.net/players/morris-almond
 
honz said:
You mean how he consistently forgot that rebounding is one of his most valuable skills?
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Ding, ding. Millsap held up by not doing the dirty work that made him so effective. He "became" to big for that. Millsap can't be the Millsap we all love and last an 82 game schedule.
 
Basketball_Romantic23 said:
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I have not seen too many guys coming out of college that could do what Burks can. plus, Almond was about a year and a half older coming out of college, which can make a big difference. There are not a ton of guys that have the handles he has at his size. Burks will be excellent at getting to the rim and creating his own shot. You can compare Burks and Almond coming out of college by visiting these lnks from NBA draft.net

Burks: https://www.nbadraft.net/players/alec-burks

Almond: https://www.nbadraft.net/players/morris-almond
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No offense, but you can take most scout write ups and throw them in the trash, they do not apply to NBA ball. The size and speed difference makes most players completely change their game to survive in the NBA.

Does this sound like the Almond we saw?
Basketball IQ is very advanced, understands the games nuances Despite his scoring mentality, Almond remains unselfish as he continually looks for open teammates Moves extremely well without the ball, usually gets open by working of screens and picks When slashing to the basket, he has no problem converting due to his body control and strength

He was extremely selfish, did not have IQ at all to pass the ball, and couldn't finish at the rim for the life of him.
 
Burks isn't anything exceptionally unique. There have been a ton of players like him coming out of College. Some guys learn the pro game and adapt well, some don't.
 
green said:
Ding, ding. Millsap held up by not doing the dirty work that made him so effective. He "became" to big for that. Millsap can't be the Millsap we all love and last an 82 game schedule.
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Millsap was fantastic this past season. It was easily the best season of his career.

Keep in mind it was mostly his offensive rebounds that declined. Consider how his altered role last season might have contributed to that.
 
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So in summary, the Jazz could've solved thier sf position problem by drafting the next Metta World Peace as Jeff Hornaceck suggested, but the Jazz opted instead for a Quincy Lewis/Morris Almond hybrid to battle for playing time with Hayward.
 
Basketball_Romantic23 said:
If alec burks ends up being worse than almond then i will voluntarily leave jazzfanz and never come back just to placte everyone for my utter stupidity! Alec Burks is so much, even worlds, better than Almond; he's a special player and special players don't come around every draft!!!!! :)
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Burks didn't prove anything yet that he will be better than Almond except being a higher pick
 
Almond was actually a great example of the crap-shoot that is pro scouting. A good friend of mine was very high on him throughout his collegiate career. He improved every year, and seemed to be nearly a no-miss prospect coming out of college. Nothing flashy, but really all-business. He did appear to be a very smart player, with a solid skillset and decent physical skills. A somewhat more athletic and polished Hornacek-type player that could have become at least as good as Horny. But then look. The bright lights of Salt Lake City and Provo mesmerized the kid and he fell apart. All that potential shot to hell. He showed flashes in the d-league, but for some reason it just didn't translate to the NBA court, when it really should have. Disappointing, yes, but not really surprising in the end. Burks has a chance to be what Almond should have been and more, or to just be spending his first 2 years of his career chasing Almonds d-league scoring records. Only time will tell.
 
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