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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think it's going to be Atlanta. Just makes too much sense with them stalling out this year. Jazz won't get a lot back, but they will be dumb enough to try and compete with John Collins/Clint Capela and whoever they can trade for with the Hawks picks they get.

Jazz can probably off-load Gay with Gobert in this kind of deal too. Help save Ryan some money.
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Yep. Atlanta is who I have been saying for quite some time. He makes perfect sense next to Trae and covers up a lot of their defensive inefficiencies. He's the best player they could hope to get.

Collins, Capella and picks for Rudy. We probably try to get Huerter in place of picks. Hopefully we can add in Gay. Rudy is by far the biggest piece in the deal. Atlanta is worried about the luxury and we are too so that part would be interesting.

I could see this being a draft trade if both our seasons end tragically.

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LoPo said:
Yep. Atlanta is who I have been saying for quite some time. He makes perfect sense next to Trae and covers up a lot of their defensive inefficiencies. He's the best player they could hope to get.

Collins, Capella and picks for Rudy. We probably try to get Huerter in place of picks. Hopefully we can add in Gay. Rudy is by far the biggest piece in the deal. Atlanta is worried about the luxury and we are too so that part would be interesting.

I could see this being a draft trade if both our seasons end tragically.

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Initially I wasn't sure Atlanta would do that, but honestly they can't play a switch style of defense with Trae on the court so having a guy who is an improvement over Capela would be good. Collins isn't long for Atlanta and vice versa... both contracts are long like Rudy's deal is. I think the best we could hope for is Clint, John, and their first for Gobert/Gay... I think we may end up having to settle for Capela and Collins with maybe the charlotte pick they got from the Reddish trade or just a couple seconds. I think we end up being slightly disappointed with whatever Gobert trade we do.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Initially I wasn't sure Atlanta would do that, but honestly they can't play a switch style of defense with Trae on the court so having a guy who is an improvement over Capela would be good. Collins isn't long for Atlanta and vice versa... both contracts are long like Rudy's deal is. I think the best we could hope for is Clint, John, and their first for Gobert/Gay... I think we may end up having to settle for Capela and Collins with maybe the charlotte pick they got from the Reddish trade or just a couple seconds. I think we end up being slightly disappointed with whatever Gobert trade we do.
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This. No matter what we will regret it in some fashion. Unless it nets us a marked improvement in outcome. Like if we get bounced in the 1st round this year, then trade Rudy and end up with a much improved regular season and at least get to the WCF the next year, we will mostly be ok with the trade. Anything less than that and we will have multiple threads about the worst trade in franchise history, And then after I make those threads, other people will make similar threads.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This. No matter what we will regret it in some fashion. Unless it nets us a marked improvement in outcome. Like if we get bounced in the 1st round this year, then trade Rudy and end up with a much improved regular season and at least get to the WCF the next year, we will mostly be ok with the trade. Anything less than that and we will have multiple threads about the worst trade in franchise history, And then after I make those threads, other people will make similar threads.
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Which is why I'd almost prefer a complete rebuild if we trade Rudy.... get all forward looking assets... then you dismantle the other pieces looking for similar pieces. Collins/Capela is cute but I don't think it gets us anywhere.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Which is why I'd almost prefer a complete rebuild if we trade Rudy.... get all forward looking assets... then you dismantle the other pieces looking for similar pieces. Collins/Capela is cute but I don't think it gets us anywhere.
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Especially since Bogey/Collins not a good fit together and does nothing to address perimeter defense
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Especially since Bogey/Collins not a good fit together and does nothing to address perimeter defense
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You’d need a couple more trades to work something that looks like it fits… you’d have to nail them all to make it work.

It will depend on what the market yields but Bogey/Mike/JC/Rudy all end up on the trade market and I’d bet 2 of them get moved.

This assumes we don’t get out of the first round.

I could also see SA being a landing spot if Quin also ends up there… Poetl, their pick this year and 1 or 2 of their young wings… cap space or Richardson serves as the salary filler. Could also do a three way deal where Collins goes to SA (they have been rumored to like him) and we get wings. Donovan would likely flip out though since Collins and him are buddies (not sure if besties or just homies).
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Especially since Bogey/Collins not a good fit together and does nothing to address perimeter defense
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It's okay if we have a number of good players. Bogey is going to miss games. Collins can play some at C. Bogey can play a little at SF.

If we move on from Rudy, we can use a 7 or 8 good player model instead of our current 6 player model after Joe went down.

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LoPo said:
It's okay if we have a number of good players. Bogey is going to miss games. Collins can play some at C. Bogey can play a little at SF.

If we move on from Rudy, we can use a 7 or 8 good player model instead of our current 6 player model after Joe went down.

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I think you hit on the issue. We have a group of good players, but we do not have a good team.
 
infection said:
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I don’t get why he’s this salty. I mean I kind of get it but if he continues to do this it’s gonna tarnish what he did here a little.
 
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