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Following 2016 potential draftees

fishonjazz said:
Should probably just ignore him. He is incapable of reacting to something he disagrees with in a non dick like way.
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Totes. I just have strong opinions and don't like the herd mentality of "the grass is greener".

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Thee jazz fan said:
I agree with the Sabonis thing here. Think people are over hyping him because he had the game of his life vs Utah in the ncaa's


No, he did not just have one great game. He was great all season long and even better down the stretch. He is apparently impressing scouts big time in workouts. Ford has him up to 10 on his big board. Do I say take him at 12? Dont know depends on who else is there. I think I like him better than Poetl though. Much more versatility.
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King Cy said:
Does your paper also list him as being a 5'8 pg who can't guard? Cuz if it did you wouldn't be saying weightless statements like "he is better on paper"

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I totally agree that Hayward is a larger human being. Not sure what that has to do with what I said about Thomas having better stats, more all star appearances and leading his team to the playoffs. But yes, we can agree that Hayward is a larger human.
 
Cy the Contrarian back at it. He usually gives decent feedback, but really struggles to see both sides of the argument. PKM is always objective when it comes to Kentucky players and him backing Murray this much means something. I'd trade Hayward or Favors straight up for Murray. We have Hood and Lyles as replacements for either one. Nothing screams star to me about either one of them. They're perfect 2nd and 3rd options on a contender, but by default they're 1st and 2nd options on this team because we have no star. Naturally I'd give up any player on this team for a chance at a star. We'd have either Exum, Murray, Hood, Favors, Gobert w/ Lyles and Burks + #12 or Exum, Murray, Hayward, Lyles, Gobert w/ Hood and Burks + #12. If we don't make a move our fate is solely in Exum's hands. Hayward tried leaving us once what would stop him a second time.
 
White Chocolate said:
King Cy the Contrarian back at it. He usually gives decent feedback, but really struggles to see both sides of the argument. PKM is always objective when it comes to Kentucky players and him backing Murray this much means something. I'd trade Hayward or Favors straight up for Murray. We have Hood and Lyles as replacements for either one. Nothing screams star to me about either one of them. They're perfect 2nd and 3rd options on a contender, but by default they're 1st and 2nd options on this team because we have no star. Naturally I'd give up any player on this team for a chance at a star. We'd have either Exum, Murray, Hood, Favors, Gobert w/ Lyles and Burks + #12 or Exum, Murray, Hayward, Lyles, Gobert w/ Hood and Burks + #12. If we don't make a move our fate is solely in Exum's hands. Hayward tried leaving us once what would stop him a second time.
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Fixed.

Also remember to breathe. Don't want you choking on PKM's member.

I really want a star too. I'm not looking at an undersized 2-guard to be that player.
 
Once again, Murray doesn't play defense. How many star players are there that don't play defense, and have been able to lead their teams to good records?

Irving (pre-LeBron)? Love? Melo? Lillard would probly be one, but even he's a better defender. People here really don't value Hayward well at all. He's very, very good. He's just not a star.
 
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