Following potential 2013 draftees

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

catch do you think McCollum goes before or after MCW?

It could go either way, and I think that's precisely the question that the Kings are asking themselves. But I could see one of them slipping as far as Dallas at #13. At that point, Dallas will probably take either one because it's too much value to pass up on.

Overall, Carter-Williams' size makes him more likely to be picked by teams like Detroit (who have Knight) and Portland (who have Lillard). I think Minnesota wants KCP if they can't swing up for Oladipo. So that being the case, McCollum could slip to #11. Philadelphia would probably still take a big since they have Holliday. OKC would take a hard look, but they've got Westbrook and Jackson. So McCollum could slide all the way to Dallas, and at that point, they'd snatch him up. He's a great trade chip, if nothing else, and several teams would come calling.

If the Jazz are serious about McCollum, they need to have a trade ready for #9 and watch what happens at #7 and #8.

 

[Dr. Jones]

see like what people dont understand here is that i have a higher grade on Alex Len than i did Hayward.

so if we could get #3 for hayward, to take Len, in my book thats a win everytime

thats just me, i have a tendency to put a Big #1 overall

i had Lamarcus Aldridge #1 overall
i did not have Greg Oden #1 overall
i had Yao Ming #1 overall
i had Enes Kanter#1 overall
and Demarcus Cousins #1 overall
my personal favorite so far, since tim duncan

i had Brook Lopez #1 overall

and my biggest gaffe was Hasheem Thabeet near #1, but memphis was a terrible spot for him, shame on them for that pick

so this year not to keep tradition but because i actually have him graded the highest,

Alex Len is my #1 overall player

You are certifiably insane.

He doesn't have the "humbleness" you find in guys who are filled with the Spirit like Durant, Wade, Lillard, Burke...

Being self-assured and knowing you're ****ing good is not a sin.

Who would you like the Jazz to take when this situation plays out

#1 Noel
#2 McLemore
#3 Bennett
#4 Oladipo
#5 Porter
#6 Burke
#7 Len
#8 Carter-Williams
#9 McCollum
#10 Muhammad
#11 Adams
#12 Zeller
#13 Schroeder

#14? Olynyk? Adetokunbo? Larkin?

Gobert.

but in greg odens defense, the legend goes he could take a penny off the backboard, meaning greg oden was like a Bigger Dwight Howard, its a shame he fell off

if he ever checks out and has some bounce in his knees, can run the floor, someone will pay him...

btw if gobert puts on 25lbs hes effectively the same size or bigger than Greg Oden, whos listed weight was probably less than reality so lets call it 35lbs

Lucas is almost the same size frame as Oden - 30lbs and slower less explosive combne #'s

$10k says he doesn't play more than 100 minutes from here out. $1k says he never plays a minute.

catch do you think McCollum goes before or after MCW?

Not Catch.. but I def see CJ going first.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

KCP, Gobert and Olynyk are pretty much the 3 guys who can push Schroeder down to the Jazz at #14.

The Kings are a serious threat to take McCollum at #7.

 

[The Midnight]

Being self-assured and knowing you're ****ing good is not a sin.

No doubt.

But he need to realize that he's not even that good yet. He doesn't even seem to realize that!! As an example, he prides himself on defense, but then you have Walt Perrin coming out and saying "He has a ways to go defensively".

I dunno.. I just don't get that vibe that he's willing to evaluate himself fairly and put his head down to improve......

 

[A-Train (old)]

When are the Jazz going to work Gobert out?

 

[The Midnight]

When are the Jazz going to work Gobert out?

Gobert VS Olynyk


Thoughts?

 

[d@!!0n0rcutt]

Dennis Schröder = Rodrigue Beaubois

Long, super athletic point guard, and both very quick. Bunch of unknowns and questions.

Same size measurables and both these mystery men we all gal in love with before the draft.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Gobert VS Olynyk


Thoughts?

Gobert's upside vs. Olynyk's polish.. Gobert for me.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If someone major (i.e., Shabazz, McCollum) doesn't slip to us at #14, then I think I want Giannis at #14 and either Schroeder or Wolters at 21.

When the Jazz brought in Larkin and Schroeder, I think it was for the 21st pick, not the 14th.

Giannis seems to be hitting his jumper and making plays in Europe at U20. A 6'10" SF who can dribble, pass and finish both inside and out is rare.

Schroeder/Wolters
Hayward
Giannis
Kanter
Favors

That's some serious talent right there.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Gobert's upside vs. Olynyk's polish.. Gobert for me.

Considering Gobert is a real center and Olynyk is more a PF by today's standards, I'd say Gobert gives us something new. I like them both though.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If the Jazz could somehow get both McCollum and Giannis out of this draft, that might be enough to contend right there.

It would probably require trading out Burks to get McCollum though.

 

[The Midnight]

He's there.....

With this year's EuroCamp in full swing, it is worth noting the very strong turnout of NBA GMs and key decision makers this year. Dennis Lindsey (Utah), Rob Hennigan (Orlando), Masai Ujiri (Toronto), Mike Bratz (Denver), John Hollinger (Memphis), Donnie Nelson (Dallas), George David (Detroit), Daryl Morey (Houston), Sam Hinkie (Philadelphia), Bob Myers (Golden State), Kevin Pritchard (Indiana), Geoff Petrie (Sacramento), Dell Demps (New Orleans), Flip Saunders (Minnesota), Brian Hagen (Chicago), Wes Wilcox (Atlanta), Tommy Shepperd (Washington), and Milt Newton (Washington) are only a few names on the laundry list of key players in attendance. This is a great development for the EuroCamp, showing that it really has become a must-attend event for NBA decision makers. Saunders addressed all the campers as the day's guest speaker.

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