Following potential 2013 draftees

[orangello]

I could not possibly agree more that the Jazz have been leaderless for years.. even DWill was more VOCAL than great leader, imo.

This team desperately needs a new coach and a STRONG leader.

I agree with all of this. My point about DWill was that he took on the tough match ups as well as taking the tough shots to win games down the stretch. Hayward is getting some sort of a 'tude, but nothing compared to what I want to see on the Jazz.

As much as I love Poythress, his lack of that 'tude is not what the Jazz need. They need someone who wants to dunk over anyone on the court. Do you know anyone like that?

 

[orangello]

Didn't Beal get drafted 3rd overall as a 6'4 SG (who didn't even play as well as Goodwin has currently at any point during the season)?

Yea, by the Wizards which is not saying much. Don't forget Waiters going #4.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Didn't Beal get drafted 3rd overall as a 6'4 SG (who didn't even play as well as Goodwin has currently at any point during the season)?

Good point.

 

[orangello]

I want to think that Doug McDermott will have a productive NBA career buti can't see him being any better than Luke Babbitt.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I want to think that Doug McDermott will have a productive NBA career buti can't see him being any better than Luke Babbitt.

He's good. He's not that good.

 

[Dr. Jones]

One more Archie thing from yesterday's game.

Some people don't like this stuff, but I do.. with only two minutes to go, UK up 30, and their foot off the gas, the opposing guard was talking trash to Archie after the guy made a shot. Was in Archie's ear the whole way down the court of d .. Archie just ignoring him. Archie pulled a Kobe and just barely looked at the guy out of the corner of his eye, drove down the lane and dunked his *** to the floor .. then just stood over him for a second in a stare down that if looks could kill.

I love having one guy on every team that you just don't **** with or they'll go off.

 

[orangello]

One more Archie thing from yesterday's game.

Some people don't like this stuff, but I do.. with only two minutes to go, UK up 30, and their foot off the gas, the opposing guard was talking trash to Archie after the guy made a shot. Was in Archie's ear the whole way down the court of d .. Archie just ignoring him. Archie pulled a Kobe and just barely looked at the guy out of the corner of his eye, drove down the lane and dunked his *** to the floor .. then just stood over him for a second in a stare down that if looks could kill.

I love having one guy on every team that you just don't **** with or they'll go off.

Video or it didn't happen.

 

[cowhide]

Breakdown; (this is about players and projecting to the NBA, not UK .. I think we'll take some lumps, fwiw)

Goodwin - FEARLESS .. more so than anyone I've seen in a long time. Major motor on both ends, great defender, mean as hell, wants to hurt someone on a dunk, passing skills coming along lightning quick, decision-making already light years from where it was just a couple games ago.
22pts, 9rbs, 9asts (3to's), 2stls, 1blk (he had about 4 blks, but most box scores are showing 2 .. with ESPN showing 1) 8/14 from the field. He gets UP.

Poythress - Fantastic athlete for his size. Nice IQ. I think he's not passive, but rather just be patient adjusting to the size/speed of the game. Still a bit of an enigma to me. Having said that, he's the first player to score 20pts or more in 4straight games since Jodie Meeks in 2008.
22pts, 9rbs, 1ast (9of11 from the field)

Noel - HIGH energy, LOVE the guy. He's all over the court. Leaves his feet too early on d, but you can see that already correcting. GREAT passer, GREAT shot blocker, not nearly as raw offensively than people are saying. He'll likely go #1 imo.
18pts, 8rbs, 5asts, 5blks (9/11 from the field)

Willie Cauley-Stein - Huge upside, fantastic 7' athlete. Great hands and feet. Raw player, but ahead of schedule, imo. 1st rounder.
12pts, 8rbs, 1ast, 4blks

Other players had nice games, but these are the 1st rounders...

Well if the Jazz have two draft picks this year then they could draft Cauley-Stein with their pick. I think everyone else on UK will be out of reach unless the Jazz can trade the GS + Burks to move up in the draft. A deal with Washington would be my target team or maybe Toronto.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

One more Archie thing from yesterday's game.

Some people don't like this stuff, but I do.. with only two minutes to go, UK up 30, and their foot off the gas, the opposing guard was talking trash to Archie after the guy made a shot. Was in Archie's ear the whole way down the court of d .. Archie just ignoring him. Archie pulled a Kobe and just barely looked at the guy out of the corner of his eye, drove down the lane and dunked his *** to the floor .. then just stood over him for a second in a stare down that if looks could kill.

I love having one guy on every team that you just don't **** with or they'll go off.

Do you think Goodwin will come out after this year? Based on what you've seen, do you think he could be a starting pg in the NBA?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Do you think Goodwin will come out after this year? Based on what you've seen, do you think he could be a starting pg in the NBA?

Why would he go to UK if he wasn't going to come out after a year?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Why would he go to UK if he wasn't going to come out after a year?

Haha...a few stay a couple years.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Do you think Goodwin will come out after this year? Based on what you've seen, do you think he could be a starting pg in the NBA?

I'd say it's 100% sure he's coming out. He's being projected as a SG. If he continues to make these kind of strides at PG, then watch out. My opinion, though, is he'll still be drafted as a SG/combo and go top 10.