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sgjazzfan said:
Question about trading picks. If Jazz trade up, can they use their 2016 pick or would that be trading 2 1st round picks in a row? Technically they would be trading prospects, and the team they trade up with will be picking for the player right?

How much higher could they get in this draft by trading the 2016 pick if they are at #10? How about #12? I think it would be harder to move up from 12 as there is a drop off after the top 10 in this draft. Teams may be more willing to trade knowing they will still get a top 10 pick.
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They can use their 2016 pick to move up.

No idea where it gets us though... Anywhere from 6-9 would be worth it IMO.
 
Cy said:
Nah I think Frank is more Diaw than Tomic is. Diaw can dribble drive from the perimeter, he just isn't a stationary post/high post passer like Tomic is.
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Imo it wasn't the dribble drives that killed the Heat, it was his stationary passing prowess. Tomic provides that more than Frank does.

I think it's reasonable to have doubts about Tomic being able to translate to the NBA. If he can't develop some sort of post-game due to his lack of strength then he is going to struggle to do anything he normally does in Europe.
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Fair. I figure he'll be fine. Probably a Luis Scola type career (start on bad teams, solid backup on good teams).



Edit: I stand corrected-- I forgot how good Luis Scola was when he first joined the NBA. Tomic most likely will never put up numbers that good unless he goes to a different team.

What's nice about Tomic's game is that it'll probably age very well. Homeless man's Pau Gasol.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Question about trading picks. If Jazz trade up, can they use their 2016 pick or would that be trading 2 1st round picks in a row? Technically they would be trading prospects, and the team they trade up with will be picking for the player right? .
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Rule only applies to future picks, so the way around it is to make the pick and then trade the player. Also, Utah has the GS pick unprotected in 2017, so we could actually trade our 16 and 17 picks, if we were so inclined. As long as you have any first rounder, whether it's your own or not, you could trade 2 consecutive picks. If Utah didn't have the GS pick, we wouldn't be able to trade 2 consecutive 1sts. The OKC pick would not allow for that, because of the protection/criteria to receive, it is not known when the pick will be acquired.
 
Cy said:
Nah I think Frank is more Diaw than Tomic is. Diaw can dribble drive from the perimeter, he just isn't a stationary post/high post passer like Tomic is.

I think it's reasonable to have doubts about Tomic being able to translate to the NBA. If he can't develop some sort of post-game due to his lack of strength then he is going to struggle to do anything he normally does in Europe.
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Agreed. Would have rep'd.
 
Anybody else excited about the prospect of having three (three!) good players added to our roster next year? Burks, Tomic, and draft pick. Zoinks!!
 
Carbon13 said:
Anybody else excited about the prospect of having three (three!) good players added to our roster next year? Burks, Tomic, and draft pick. Zoinks!!
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You're forgetting free agency. We could get someone like DMC or Danny Green.

All those new additions plus internal development of the youngest team in the league (that is already proving to be one of the most devastating defensive teams)... The league better watch out.
 
There's reason to be a little skeptical of how both Frank and Tomic will translate to the NBA, but I'd still be excited about either as our 3rd big.
 
I agree with Dal that the stationary passing of Tomic from the high and low post would be more useful than Frank's drive and dish game. Passing out of the post is more what Snyder's system incorporates (not that I wouldn't be excited for this aspect of Frank's game).

Ftr, I wouldn't be against adding both Tomic and Kaminsky. If they both fit on the bench, then great. If not, then either would still be a good asset in a trade.
 
I don't get the insinuation that Kaminsky cannot pass.. he's averaging 2.7 assists this year in 33 minutes. That's compared to Tomic's 2.3 assists in 24 minutes. Not too shabby.


Kaminsky is a willing & improving passer. His assists numbers have improved every year and jumped from 1.3 last year to 2.7 this year. He is also younger than Tomic so you've gotta give him time.
 
I know Hood has been playing well, but I would trade Hood and our first-round pick to move up for Hezonja, without hesitation. I'd even throw in another pick if I had to.
 
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