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Following potential 2015 draftees
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seattlejazzfan
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One could argue nobody knows who BPA is, otherwise you would never have Curry going 8 (or whatever), Gobert lasting until the end of the first or take the pick of the countless busts drafted early or late steals. Instead go with need and hope you also got BPA.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but while the easy and popular answer is say to take the BPA, it may not be that simple when all is said and done.
Watchmen.
When I say BPA, I mean whoever is BPA according to the board of the FO, which is the only board that matters. I just don't want them to have Booker ahead of everybody else on their board, but take Kaminsky because we need a big more than a wing, for example. That's all I mean whenever I write "draft BPA"...
Jazz4ever
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Says we should get ready for Kaminsky
https://hoopshabit.com/2015/05/15/utah-jazz-get-ready-frank-kaminsky/
https://hoopshabit.com/2015/05/15/utah-jazz-get-ready-frank-kaminsky/
Really could be a very good fit. I would MUCH rather have him than Looney. I hate Looney.
He's more retarded (albeit slightly) than those that ask me, "Why do you hate Looney so much." Though he's not as retarded as those who say, "You only hate Looney because you hate UCLA."
So basically lots of retards 'round here. Also, some not so retarded. But we're all retarded to varying degrees. I think.
Cappy_Smurf
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If the difference between players is negligible, then draft for need. Otherwise, always take BPA. That doesn't mean you might not be wrong as to who is BPA, but you still have to try and make those distinctions. That's why they get paid the big bucks. As you get deeper in the draft, I think it gets a lot more difficult to determine BPA, but the higher you pick, the more you don't want to pass on a Deron Williams because you already have Sebastian Telfair.
I think it's way more complex than that.
Think about it that way.
How many possessions has a game? How many are locked for your current key players? How many "educational" possessions can I give away in the regular season to my young guys and still compete for/reach the playoffs?
Other key questions are:
How long will it take for that player to become efficient off the ball(especially wings)?
Look at Kelly Oubre for example. The dude doesn't have a clue about positioning, his footwork has been sloppy whenever I watched him.
How do you utilize him?
Is parking him in the corner to shoot open 3s against undisciplined defenses from the strong side going to allow him to develop serious game?
I strongly suspect the Jazz are going to utilize Hayward and Exum as their primary ballhandlers and they wanted Exum to develop more off ball skills this season as a spot up shooter or as a 2ndary attacker. He couldnt attack against scrambling defenses, but he's young, he didnt try enough though for my taste and I think that has to do with how many ball dominant players the Jazz have on their roster and also he deferred too much in these situations or relied too much on his improving shot.
So even if that ball hog is your BPA, it may not make sense to get him to Utah as you probably won't be able to maximize his talents unless you think you can totally change that player in reasonable time.
For me the draft is a long term investment, and I personally don't care much if they'd be able to contribute right away. Almost by default(unless they are truly exceptional talents) rookies do not have serious contributions to a team in the first two years. If Oubre has the biggest chance to be the best player in the long run(most of their absolute value comes in their second contracts), then draft him. Players would grow a lot with pro-coaching and playing time. Your question, as far as I understand it is - how would you find playing time (and responsibilities) for him to develop his game. I think we are not at a point where our wing rotation is so good that he won't be able to get playing time or opportunities to work and as you pointed out he will have training sessions and summers to work on expanding his game... Summers are usually the time when the most serious advances in players' games are made. I think in this current roster he'd be 4th option on the wing right away and will have plenty of opportunities to develop plus he'd have a great developmental coaching staff to work with in the summers.
orangello
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Frank's defense scares me. The last two years he was older and more experienced than just about every other big he played against.
I hope he proves the wrong but he would get destroyed by most back up PF/C in the Western Conference.