Following potential 2015 draftees

[Stifle Tower]

Burks has already somewhat proven himself. Maybe people forgot what with his not playing much last year due to injury. But his game reminds me of Wade. He is an AND1 monster.

Hezonja? Looks good, but ya never know.

Exactly. Last season he worked on his 3's and brought his percentage up significantly. But he was hammered in here by many for his lack of finishing. I forget what the % drop was, but it was fairly sizeable. That really shouldn't be a surprise; he had limited range of motion and was playing through pain.

The reason to consider trading Burks is his salary and Hood. Rodney showed he's capable of starting (if healthy). And getting Hezonja on a rookie deal would help the salary situation in the future. Not sure I'd do it, but I can see why some are advocating for the trade. I think the offer should be Burks OR Burke plus the #12 to move up. Maybe throw in a future first (the worst of our picks and OKC or GS).

 

[karl malone]

To BENTLEY:

Not saying that he hasn't proved himself to be a good player. He absolutely is &, as you say, he is an AND1 monster. He really does have elite finishing ability around the rim, I just don't see his skill-set as a good fit in our projected starting 5. All I was saying is that he isn't a proven good fit in this offensive or defensive system, nor is he a proven $10 mil player (although I'd be surprised if he isn't with the future cap increase). And while you never know about a prospect entering the NBA, Utah has to take risks to force it's way into the championship picture & Hezonja seems to be as good of a risk as there is to take in this year's draft.

 

[BENTLEY]

karl malone - what do you consider a great 3pt shooter? Burks shot 38% last year - and is improving. He already is a great slasher/AND1 finisher + his 3pt% is on the incline. Truth be told I have more love for Burks than I do Hayward.

 

[BENTLEY]

Well, karl malone I think you're really passionate about your pov. You've conceded Burks is an AND1 monster and great at finishing around the rim. But your hang up is that we need outside shooting more - for our specific players (to open things up for the frontcourt). I understand, but it appears Burks is improving his 3pt% - so that should give you pause before trading him away. He can still fit in with the Jazz offense. I'm not comfortable trading either of Burks or Hood for Hezonja. Hezonja looks good but also arrogant. Arrogant's not necessarily bad, but it's something to think about. ...Kirk Snyder was pretty arrogant too. Anyway, I'm sure your opinion hasn't changed, but neither has mine.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I want Oubre at 12.

 

[karl malone]

BENTLEY, to be considered a great 3 pt shooter imo, you have to average more than 2.5 attempts in 33 mpg. The percentage was excellent considering that his game is slashing/finishing & not shooting. It's not that I don't like his game, it's simply that I don't view him as a good fit alongside Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert. With our frontcourt, I see it as necessary to have a second shooter alongside Hayward, especially since Exum doesn't project to be great in that area. If it wasn't for the presence of Hood, I would be much more hesitant to trade Burks & even still, would only do so for the right player (which I believe Hezonja to be due to his potential to be the better shooter & defender). As far as his attitude/character, I agree that it is the main concern with him (which is part of why I think 1 of Hood/Burks would have to go as Hezonja likely needs to feel like part of the team's future). If it wasn't for the leadership of Snyder, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert, I may be less willing to potentially risk the great team chemistry that has been established. I just see Hezonja as a special talent & great fit who is worth the risk.

 

[stitches]

Say whatever you want about Locke, but the guy works his behind off and produces a ton of quality content for the fans(some of it is not even required by his job):

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports 1h1 hour ago

PODCAST SCHEDULE
Monday: Oubre, Lyles, Turner
Tue: Chad Ford Part 1
Wed: Ford Part 2
Thur: Pelton Part 1
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DRAFT WEEK PODCAST SCHEDULE
Mon: Jonathan Givony Part 1
Tue: Jonathan Givony Part 2
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[Ron Mexico]

Hezonja is a shoot for the moon player. He has not proven anything. He is not a great shooter. He just has potential. He has hardly played. He has the tools to be a good player, he has length, attitude, decent shooting mechanics and athleticism that could make him great. He could also bust out of this league. I think he has one of the highest bust potential of anyone projected to go in the lottery. I would be happy if we could draft him but I think it would be a mistake to give up too much for him. If he busts and we gave up our last lottery pick, and two other players we took in the lottery the last few years that could set this team back. If you can trade picks for him like the OKC pick or GS pick than maybe. If not just let a decent player slide to us at 12. A good player will be there at 12.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I'm surprised how Kaminsky's stock has plummeted amongst jazzfanzers. Why?

Not because of the Wondo's tweet (or whatever that place is called).

Is it because he said he only wants to go to 3 places and Utah wasn't one of them?

for me his stock has gone down because it appears he doesn't want to come here as he has a list of three teams he wants to play for. I'm guessing Utah isn't one of them but who knows

 

[karl malone]

Bronc, I respect what you're saying & agree that you're drafting him entirely on potential as he hasn't had an opportunity to prove himself (which was due to a situation that was out of his control). I agree that you have to be careful not to overpay for any unproven prospect, but as far as I can tell, all of the skills & physical tools are there & if he busts, it will be due to attitude (which is why it is important he goes to a place with a strong support system such as Utah rather than a team like SAC) or injuries. I agree that #12/Burks/+ for Hezonja is a boom or bust type of trade, but it's one worth the risk imo as I don't see the roster as championship caliber as it currently projects.

 

[orangello]

Mario is playing with Barcelona still. They just advanced to the finals today(Mario had a good game in limited minute in the deciding 5th game against Unicaja - 8pts(3/4FG, 2/3 3pFG), 2rbs, in 7 mins). He won't be able to come to the US for workouts. I wonder if he'll be able to come for the draft either(third game of the finals is on 24th, so he probably won't be at the draft).

I wonder if he will slip slightly because teams can't work him out and he's not playing much right now.

A perfect storm for the Jazz to come in and get him?

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[Maneesh]

Bronc, I respect what you're saying & agree that you're drafting him entirely on potential as he hasn't had an opportunity to prove himself (which was due to a situation that was out of his control). I agree that you have to be careful not to overpay for any unproven prospect, but as far as I can tell, all of the skills & physical tools are there & if he busts, it will be due to attitude (which is why it is important he goes to a place with a strong support system such as Utah rather than a team like SAC) or injuries. I agree that #12/Burks/+ for Hezonja is a boom or bust type of trade, but it's one worth the risk imo as I don't see the roster as championship caliber as it currently projects.

Yet you you see hezonja as the player to make us champs? I think you have crazy intentions here.