Following potential 2015 draftees

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Lyles has a Greg Monroe type of skillset but with a more dangerous face-up game. If he can continue to refine his handle, shooting and athleticism, he will prove to be well worth a lottery pick.

His strengths offensively are more nuanced than many of the prospects being discussed. he interprets the defense well, knows when to pick his spots, and shows an adept touch around the rim. It's understated just how advanced skill-wise he is for a 19 year old, and it's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities that he develops consistent NBA 3pt range.

Obviously his interviews aren't the most charismatic, he's basketball player though - I'm sure PKM can speak on his personality better than I. Lyles seems to carry himself in an understated, level-headed, low-key type of way. It sort of looked like he was the guy reminding Towns not to get too amped sometimes on the bench during blowouts, the type to crack a smile/cut the mood next to a player barking at the refs.

Agree. He has potential as a defender and as an offensive player. I think he can definitely think he'll be a starter in the NBA. Like his size and athletic ability.

I'm pretty meh on him, but I can psyche myself up for just about any player in the Jazz's range. With Lyles being the least, though I sorta feel that I'm really underselling him too.

Why are people so down on Lyles. I don't get it.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Towns and Turner almost have identical stats.

Turner is a better three-point shooter.

Towns is a better low-post scorer.

Both are pretty good defenders, both are 7'0.

The difference is one runs funny and played for Texas and the other played for Kentucky.

If Turner played for Kentucky, he would be in consideration to go #1.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Towns and Turner almost have identical stats.

Turner is a better three-point shooter.

Towns is a better low-post scorer.

Both are pretty good defenders, both are 7'0.

The difference is one runs funny and played for Texas and the other played for Kentucky.

If Turner played for Kentucky, he would be in consideration to go #1.

Here's the mother of all head scratchers?? How would he be considered for the top pick if he played for KU??

 

[Elizah Huge]

Here's the mother of all head scratchers?? How would he be considered for the top pick if he played for KU??

Lololol, so you're telling me if Towns played for Texas and put up the same stats and didn't make the tourney that he would still go #1?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Lololol, so you're telling me if Towns played for Texas and put up the same stats and didn't make the tourney that he would still go #1?

U do realize no one at KU played heavy mins due to having so many good players right. Why wasn't Jimmer considered the no 1 pick in his draft? Not ur best moment wc.


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[stitches]

Agree. He has potential as a defender and as an offensive player. I think he can definitely think he'll be a starter in the NBA. Like his size and athletic ability.


Why are people so down on Lyles. I don't get it.

He's good, not great at his strong points(maybe with exception of passing) and he's produced horribly at some of the things that are supposed to be strong points - shooting. Not great athlete, not explosive, not very quick laterally. People are afraid to say it but I will say it - even though he has the size of a PF(6'10''), defensively he's a tweener. I don't know if he'd be able to guard the big PFs in the league. He reminds me of Boozer defensively. Offensively - he plays short in the lane due to him not being explosive and not having elite length, he has real trouble finishing against lengthy opponents. Unless he starts making those perimeter shots, I have trouble seeing how he'd be able to stay on the court.

What PGAB described as his offensive game is a little bigger Joe Ingles, with the exception that Ingles actually hits his 3p with some regularity and has good defensive instincts and awareness unlike Lyles.

Don't get me wrong, he's a smart player, who reads the game well in offense and makes the right passes, and if he develops his jump shot to a point where it's actually a strength, he will probably be a good rotational big in the league, but I just don't like the ceiling and I don't like the floor and how easy it would be for him to stay at the floor.

 

[davidbenoit]

Towns and Turner almost have identical stats.

Turner is a better three-point shooter.

Towns is a better low-post scorer.

Both are pretty good defenders, both are 7'0.

The difference is one runs funny and played for Texas and the other played for Kentucky.

If Turner played for Kentucky, he would be in consideration to go #1.

I don't agree that he'd go 1 but I think he'd be a lock for top 8.

Did anyone see the video of his Las Vegas workout? I was really impressed with his speed and power. It looks like he's put on a little weight since Texas.

 

[Elizah Huge]

U do realize no one at KU played heavy mins due to having so many good players right. Why wasn't Jimmer considered the no 1 pick in his draft? Not ur best moment wc.


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Because he was senior, played for BYU, and played in a bad conference.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I don't agree that he'd go 1 but I think he'd be a lock for top 8.

Did anyone see the video of his Las Vegas workout? I was really impressed with his speed and power. It looks like he's put on a little weight since Texas.

So maybe I'm not as crazy as TJF thinks huh?

 

[spycam1]

Towns and Turner almost have identical stats.

Turner is a better three-point shooter.

Towns is a better low-post scorer.

Both are pretty good defenders, both are 7'0.

The difference is one runs funny and played for Texas and the other played for Kentucky.

If Turner played for Kentucky, he would be in consideration to go #1.

You're simplifying too much. Somehow you didn't mention what a prolific passer Towns is. He's also got better lateral quickness, ball handling, and ability to run the floor. There's a lot that separates Towns from Turner.

 

[stitches]

Towns is much more versatile on both ends of the floor. He can both stretch the floor, can pass and can bang inside. Turner's game in offense is limited to spot ups, pick and pops and some turn around jumpers, his low post game is very rudimentary. In defense Towns can guard better in space and has some ability as a shot blocker, while Turner is more comfortable around the rim as a rim protector, he doesn't move in space as well as Towns does. As spy said, Towns runs the floor better and passes better right now, too. There is not a case for Turner being no. 1 pick really... but I think there is a real potential for him to be really really good...

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

So apparently Turner was considered the #2 center prospect of the 2014 HS class. No. 1 was Okafor. No. 3 was Towns.

https://espn.go.com/college-sports/...gs/_/position/center/class/2014/view/position

It might also be fair to say the situation at Texas didn't suit him very well.