Following potential 2015 draftees

[BENTLEY]

I couldn't believe Kaminsky would be this stupid. Googled it and it's mentioned here:

https://www.indystar.com/story/insider/2015/06/12/indiana-pacers-kaminsky-turner-workout/71124218

If this is the case I hope Favors pulls a Karl Malone and elbows his teeth out like Chiclets.

Ok, I read the story. Is this what everyone's getting worked up about:

According to a source with knowledge, Kaminsky has a short list of three teams which he believes would be a good fit, and the Pacers are one of them.

This is so vague, guys. Again, I'm not getting my panties in a bunch over it. There are a few players I like better than Kaminsky but if they're gone I'm all for grabbing him. He'd be great in Utah.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Another Angle to consider is "Fit".


Do you guys really think Oubre would want to stay in Salt Lake and be happy here long term? I'm not sure, I don't know him personally. But Kaminsky sure won't be happy here. He didn't even want to workout here let alone play here - and he's well WITHIN OUR DRAFT RANGE!!!! C'mon now.


I think that leaves us with Turner to consider. He would be a great fit here with his #humble attitude. A great fit for this great city of ours and a great representative for our people who value humility above all else as well. Just seems to fit our culture to the T as well. (T for Turner).

Indiana, New York, Miami I think.

It's not just the contractual issue. Our culture is the best thing we've got going for us at the moment. The last thing I would want is a guy who is not interested in being here and coming in and ruin that culture.

Geez its stuff like this that makes it hard for me to take u seriously, or even respect u. What if we hadn't drafted Exum and DL in explaining why says he wouldn't come for a workout so we passed. U would be leading the charge about how foolish DL was for not picking him if Exum turned out to be a star. Same with Kanter.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Geez its stuff like this that makes it hard for me to take u seriously, or even respect u. What if we hadn't drafted Exum and DL in explaining why says he wouldn't come for a workout so we passed. U would be leading the charge about how foolish DL was for not picking him if Exum turned out to be a star. Same with Kanter.

Lol those are top-5 picks, Exum was thought to be guaranteed to go top-4. At 12 there are so many more options, it's hard to believe Kaminsky would be BPA.

 

[The Midnight]

Geez its stuff like this that makes it hard for me to take u seriously, or even respect u. What if we hadn't drafted Exum and DL in explaining why says he wouldn't come for a workout so we passed. U would be leading the charge about how foolish DL was for not picking him if Exum turned out to be a star. Same with Kanter.

Kanter had a private workout for us in CHI. With Exum I just explained why that wasn't an issue, he wasn't projected in our range so it made no sense for him to come workout for us.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Lol those are top-5 picks, Exum was thought to be guaranteed to go top-4. At 12 there are so many more options, it's hard to believe Kaminsky would be BPA.

Just the same if we pass on Kaminsky and DL says we pAssed due to him not coming for a visit. A ton of u would be calling for DL's dead and don't go denying it either. I f u r DL and think Kaminsky is best player available u take him regardless of weather he comes or not. Period, end of story.


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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Kanter had a private workout for us in CHI. With Exum I just explained why that wasn't an issue, he wasn't projected in our range so it made no sense for him to come workout for us.

I don't care the reason if he's the best available u draft him and not let the player dictate what u do or every player from kingdom come will walk all over us.


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[stormkoopacv03]

Kaminsky won't be the BPA even if he was available at 12 but would he be a perfect fit for the Jazz? Yes. But I want Turner instead cuz of his great potential.

 

[Maneesh]

Geez its stuff like this that makes it hard for me to take u seriously, or even respect u. What if we hadn't drafted Exum and DL in explaining why says he wouldn't come for a workout so we passed. U would be leading the charge about how foolish DL was for not picking him if Exum turned out to be a star. Same with Kanter.

Please don't be rude to One Love. He has the right to have his opinions, its true. Not everything you say is always the best either. We can all have our own thoughts. My thought is do not draft Kaminsky, Dekker or Lyles. But I am not stupid for thinking it.

 

[The Midnight]

I don't care the reason if he's the best available u draft him and not let the player dictate what u do or every player from kingdom come will walk all over us.


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If he is a can't miss talent sure you draft him regardless.


But at #12 this year there are so many players in the same tier so many to choose from why be stuck with a guy who doesn't want to be here? When the talent is so close this certainly is a factor to consider.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Kaminsky is stupid for even saying he has a list of three teams. You are trying to get drafted wtf is wrong with him. I've soured on him the past couple of weeks anyways.

 

[Maneesh]

Kaminsky is stupid for even saying he has a list of three teams. You are trying to get drafted wtf is wrong with him. I've soured on him the past couple of weeks anyways.

Exactly. he is no position. What a clown and we need to keep from him. Please!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Kaminsky is stupid for even saying he has a list of three teams. You are trying to get drafted wtf is wrong with him. I've soured on him the past couple of weeks anyways.

He is getting drafted either way.

No reason to be butt-hurt. I would probably do the same thing if I was in that position of relative power.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Exactly. he is no position. What a clown and we need to keep from him. Please!

Nah, he has a position. He knows he is going to get drafted at least in the top 15, so why not try to influence where you go a bit? It's in his interest to go to a good situation, it's going to influence the rest of his career.

 

[Maneesh]

He is getting drafted either way.

No reason to be butt-hurt. I would probably do the same thing if I was in that position of relative power.

Its not about butt hurt. I have never seen a player projected mid 1st and late lottery start limiting his workouts.

 

[The Midnight]

Kaminsky is stupid for even saying he has a list of three teams. You are trying to get drafted wtf is wrong with him. I've soured on him the past couple of weeks anyways.

It's either him OR his agent.


If its him that's certainly bad for us. If it's his agent then we've got another "Kanter" type situation on our hands .... and do we really want that?

 

[Maneesh]

Nah, he has a position. He knows he is going to get drafted at least in the top 15, so why not try to influence where you go a bit? It's in his interest to go to a good situation, it's going to influence the rest of his career.

Maybe, but I am also not a fan of him so this just seems silly to me considering he is not a surefire talent. I am biased however

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Its not about butt hurt. I have never seen a player projected mid 1st and late lottery start limiting his workouts.

He is projected mid to late lottery.

And why not limit workouts? We just saw Michael Qualls injure his ACL in a workout a few days ago. Teams know what Kaminksy can do, no reason to do too many workouts when you are such a known player.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

we can't draft kaminsky because when ever I see him I think of a horse and I want to ask him why the long face?

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

If he is a can't miss talent sure you draft him regardless.


But at #12 this year there are so many players in the same tier so many to choose from why be stuck with a guy who doesn't want to be here? When the talent is so close this certainly is a factor to consider.

Damnit that's just my point!! Good hell. U have no idea the intentions of the player. U overthink everything. But if the Jazz want frank but frank doesn work out for us then u start creating perceptions that u can walk all over us and we lose respect as an org then more players feel they can decline just because they have a perception of how bad it is to live in Utah if the Jazz like him and want to draft him. The fact that he didn't want to work out for us shouldn't matter u still draft him then show him what a bad *** team this is. And u make it work.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Indiana and two others (obviously the other two being teams he was willing to work out for).

Why would any young player want to play for Utah? We already have young, high lottery picks at every position who are probably more talented than anyone we are going to draft. Anyone we draft is looking at a backup role nearly guaranteed for the next 4 years. I don't blame young guys for not being overly excited to come workout for us.