Isn't this the case where you said there's 50% chance Jazz trade Favors to the Knicks for Porzingis?
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Isn't this the case where you said there's 50% chance Jazz trade Favors to the Knicks for Porzingis?
WCS and Couains would make for a GREAT frontcourt imo. Frees Cousins up from his defensive duties and can focus on the offense of which he is a load. It also gives George Karl that defensive identity he is known for.
I think the Knicks would be trading Porzingis, and it would be a 40-50% chance that it's to the Jazz. I think the Jazz would decline to offer Favors. They'd offer 12, 2 future picks and a salary swap with Burke/Calderon. Maybe they'd offer Hood instead of one of the picks.
The Jazz could also be the team trading up to 8 for Turner, offering 12 and a future first.
The key to that mock would be that Winslow slides due to his poor shooting.
Cousins has that franchise by the stones.
That's me as well.
Jazz4ever
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Its more about wanting to be here than the actual workout.
Hood was projected between us 8-16. There is no scenario he saw himself going 5th or 23rd. Only so much time, players can't do more than 8 workouts with all the traveling.
Neither you or that smurf guy has given one legitimate reason for Frank to turn us down. The Exum and Hood attempts are swings and misses.
Coach Ellis
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Turner going to the Pistons would be depressing, but I bet Charlotte could be talked into moving down from 9 with Winslow, Oubre, Johnson and Booker all still on the board. Personally, I'd be very surprised if Winslow lasts that far.
The same reason any prospect doesn't go to a workout - because their agent tells them not to. They try to position their prospects in the best situation for their success... If Frank wants to be a contending for a starting job from day 1 Utah is the last place in that range he should be going to. There's virtually no chance he gets the nod over Favors or Gobert in the next 3 years(and quite possibly for longer). The same reason why Booker didn't work out for us, same reason Payne didn't work out for us, same reason a ton of other prospects didn't work out for us. This thing with taking not coming to a workout personally or reading too much into it is ridiculous. I don't mind it at all. I would prefer for the FO to be able to go through the process with those prospects, but if they think they have enough information without the workout and that information points to them being the best prospect available, I have no problem with them selecting them in the draft.
BENTLEY
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Humor me (I need to see this):
TOP FOUR: KAT, Okafor, Porz, Russell
1. MIN: KAT
2. LAL: probably Okafor but could be Porz or Russell
3. PHI: Russell or Porz
4. NYC: whoever's left of Okafor, Porz, Russell (Okafor doesn't fall past Knicks)
NOW WHO KNOWS:
5. ORL: sounds like Winslow is the pick unless Porz is there.
6. SAC: no idea. Cousins wants WCS. They could go anywhere though. PG - Mudiay. I think they'll take WCS though.
Do any of teams 7-10 want a PG (Mudiay)?
A RUN ON WINGS (Hezonja, Winslow, Johnson, Oubre, Booker):
7. DEN: again, no idea. Hezonja? Winslow if he falls.
8. DET: they need a 3. So Johnson or Oubre. Or Winslow.
9. CHA: they need outside shooting SG. Booker or Oubre. Or Winslow.
10. MIA: a wing probably. Oubre, Booker, Winslow.
ALMOST THERE:
11. IND (or BOS via trade): Turner most likely. or if Indy keeps the pick they could go PG (Payne or Mudiay) or a big - I dunno.
12. UTA: ...whichever wing from the previous group falls (Johnson?) or if going big Mud(Kaminsky).
If Indy takes a PG then Turner falls and I'm thrilled. But I dunno how confident I am he falls to us.
If we want Turner we gotta leapfrog Indiana/Boston. Does anyone else have any ideas who the teams might be targeting at their respective slots?
TOP FOUR: KAT, Okafor, Porz, Russell
1. MIN: KAT
2. LAL: probably Okafor but could be Porz or Russell
3. PHI: Russell or Porz
4. NYC: whoever's left of Okafor, Porz, Russell (Okafor doesn't fall past Knicks)
NOW WHO KNOWS:
5. ORL: sounds like Winslow is the pick unless Porz is there.
6. SAC: no idea. Cousins wants WCS. They could go anywhere though. PG - Mudiay. I think they'll take WCS though.
Do any of teams 7-10 want a PG (Mudiay)?
A RUN ON WINGS (Hezonja, Winslow, Johnson, Oubre, Booker):
7. DEN: again, no idea. Hezonja? Winslow if he falls.
8. DET: they need a 3. So Johnson or Oubre. Or Winslow.
9. CHA: they need outside shooting SG. Booker or Oubre. Or Winslow.
10. MIA: a wing probably. Oubre, Booker, Winslow.
ALMOST THERE:
11. IND (or BOS via trade): Turner most likely. or if Indy keeps the pick they could go PG (Payne or Mudiay) or a big - I dunno.
12. UTA: ...whichever wing from the previous group falls (Johnson?) or if going big Mud(Kaminsky).
If Indy takes a PG then Turner falls and I'm thrilled. But I dunno how confident I am he falls to us.
If we want Turner we gotta leapfrog Indiana/Boston. Does anyone else have any ideas who the teams might be targeting at their respective slots?
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True, but Detroit is willing to move it's pick, and I could see Turner going top 10 in this draft. I could see teams passing on Winslow for lack of shooting.