Following Potential 2018 Draftees

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Jazz are not in win now mode. I would be pretty shocked if they traded this pick to get a veteran (unless it's part of some big blockbuster type deal, which also seems highly unlikely).

I mean, certainly they are trying to win now, but they aren't into mortgaging the future to do so.

We can get a decent win now vet with MLE if we want to this summer. Draft bpa with premium placed on long term projected needs. Keep the pick. Trade a 2019 pick if u want to do a win now trade.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

He just seems like the kind of college scorer who wont translate. Really skinny and not great length. He also sat out on the athletic testing, which is weird for a guy at his (currently) projected draft position.

I think the scoring will translate. He has a nice mix of pulling up for jumpers and getting downhill. He's not super athletic, but the instincts and shooting are there. Again, he reminds me a bit of Jamal Murray. There were concerns about Murray heading into the draft that he couldn't defend anybody and wouldn't be athletic enough to create looks in the pros. But I think, like Murray, Robinson will come through.

 

[Jack Strop]

The Jazz are not in win now mode. I would be pretty shocked if they traded this pick to get a veteran (unless it's part of some big blockbuster type deal, which also seems highly unlikely).

I mean, certainly they are trying to win now, but they aren't into mortgaging the future to do so.

I don't equate "win now" with "mortgaging the future." Realistically, the chances of any player drafted in the 20's becoming a top-end starter are low. Jazz already have backups like O'Neale and Crowder. They likely have Exum coming back. No rookie is going to step in and have a significant impact. What Utah needs is another scorer. I could see Lindsey looking the trade route if the price is the #21 and other minor assets.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't equate "win now" with "mortgaging the future." Realistically, the chances of any player drafted in the 20's becoming a top-end starter are low. Jazz already have backups like O'Neale and Crowder. They likely have Exum coming back. No rookie is going to step in and have a significant impact. What Utah needs is another scorer. I could see Lindsey looking the trade route if the price is the #21 and other minor assets.

I mean, you can't be serious.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

@Saint Cy of JFC tell me your dream pick who can realistically be had at 21. Or give me like five guys you’d like in that range.

I trust your opinion.

 

[Jack Strop]

I mean, you can't be serious.

About what part? I'm not claiming Utah can get a star for #21. I think the starters are set with Rubio, Mitchell, Gobert, Ingles and Favs or Crowder. So the need is to find scoring off the bench. Are their vets that may be available for the #21 and other minor assets? Perhaps for teams wanting to rebuild or cut costs?

Mirotic has been tossed around as a possibility if NO decides to re-sign Cousins. I don't think that's a trade that NO has to make, though. There are other ways for them to trim payroll if needed.

Is a trade likely? Probably not. I think better options might be available at the deadline next Feb, with the expiring contracts of Burks and others, and if Utah has some better young prospects like this year's pick and hopefully a developing Bradley. I just brought up the possibility that anything is possible, especially on a team that, IMO, could use a more established, reliable scorer off the bench.

 

[Game6Conley]

Totally forgot he exists. Not sure it's injury related, but when I watched him play at Kentucky I wasn't impressed with any part of his game except being long and athletic, but then he moved very uncoordinated and I didn't even like that any longer.

He's damn good withh the ball in his hands, especially turning a dreb into a transition opportunity he's like a guard and pushes the ball up court FAST. He's also a demon on the boards and he's a plus passer

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

@Saint Cy of JFC tell me your dream pick who can realistically be had at 21. Or give me like five guys you’d like in that range.

I trust your opinion.

Right now my top targets for the Jazz (within reason and no order) would be:
Keita Bates-Diop
Lonnie Walker (Him and KBD might be the two least likely to drop to 21)
Jacob Evans
Elie Okobo
Melvin Frazier
Josh Okogie
Kevin Huerter
Afernee Simons
Dzanan Musa

If we end up with any one of those nine guys I will be pretty excited. If we don't, I will be reasonably bummed.

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[BTP]

He's damn good withh the ball in his hands, especially turning a dreb into a transition opportunity he's like a guard and pushes the ball up court FAST. He's also a demon on the boards and he's a plus passer

Transition could be interesting, especially when you think Rubio and Mitchell are gonna be there long term and they're quite capable playing with pace. But oh boy, by what I could see the spacing with Vanderbilt would be really bad in the half court.

 

[Eminence]

I like almost all of the guys on Cy's list. KBD could be ideal fit/talent wise. Huerter really tore the combine up.

Simmons is the one I'm wary of, but if the team loved him in workouts I couldn't really argue with it.

 

[Bodhi]

OK, I did a Post-Combine Big Board. Will be the last one I do until days before the draft.

Our thoughts are fairly close on some (I am not as high...i.e. #1...on Ayton either) and pretty off on others (I’m not sure I could convince myself to draft Trae at all in the first....).

I have Jackson at #2 then Bamba. I’m also higher on Porter JR and lower on Evans than you.

This will all change in an hour, btw.

 

[Game6Conley]

I am almost to the point of betting Doncic goes to the suns. Guards and wings are more important in the NBA than centers. Especially centers that are great at defense.

Doncic, Booker, Jackson and Warren are good foundation peices. The sins have money this summer to go out and offer or over pay for a center. They could offer the max to capela or steal favors from the jazz. If they felt so inclined they could offer a Max to cousins.

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I hope your right. The Kings would take Ayton in that scenaio im sure though because he'd immediately make a big impact on the boards.

A pretty solid argument can be made that Jaren Jackson Jr. is a better shooter and better rim protector than Ayton. Ayton may be a better scorer in the post and mid-range, but even this may not be entirely clear cut or may not stay that way longer term. Jackson might also be a better roll-man and will also run the floor in transition and in transition defense. Ayton is a very impressive player, but he's not a clear-cut #1 pick to me, given the way the game has been evolving.

I'd take Ayton ahead of Bagley and probably Bamba though.

Ayton is a better shooter than JJJ.


Bamba is one of the great wildcards here, i still believe a case can be made for him to go first.