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Following Potential 2018 Draftees

Catchall said:
Robinson shot 53% from 2-pt range, 41% from 3-pt range, and 83% on FTs. He averaged 20.7 ppg and 3.3 apg as the primary option on Boston College. According to Tankathon his True Shooting Percentage was .608, which is excellent for a guard, and his Effective FG % was .564. Considering the volume of 3s he shot and how difficult some of his looks were, these are all great numbers. According to Locke, he shot well off the bounce and off the catch. He's one of the best shooters in the entire draft. The only guard/wing that shot better was Landry Shamet, though I don't think Trae Young was included in Locke's sample.

He projects to be a better shooter than Huerter, in large part due to shooting 7 or 8 percentage points better on free-throws.

You're worried that he won't get on the floor?
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This is this year. As a third year player playing vs teenagers. He was inefficient chucker in both his previous seasons. I just don't see the elite level skill/wiggle, athleticism that would project into ability to create vs NBA level defenders. I think Huerter will be a better shooter and can shoot it better on the move and he won't be relied to create offense. He just has a much cleaner transition and projection to the league. Robinson's projection is all sorts of messy and I don't trust it at all. Creating offense in the league is sooooo much different than it is in college, especially for a player that shot good for the first time in his 3d year in college. Also, Huerter even though not an amazing defender, at least tries and gives effort on D.

Huerter projects as an off-ball guard/wing who will be spotting up and running through screens and handoffs and making decisions on the move(he's actually legitimately great at that... his decision-making on the move is arguably better than his shot). He also projects as a somewhat switchable defender. I have no worries about his ability to play in the league... as long as his shot projects, which I have little doubts about.

With Robinson... well you can read my post above about the worries I have about his projection.
 
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stitches said:
This is this year. As a third year player playing vs teenagers. He was inefficient chucker in both his previous seasons. I just don't see the elite level skill/wiggle, athleticism that would project into ability to create vs NBA level defenders. I think Huerter will be a better shooter and can shoot it better on the move and he won't be relied to create offense. He just has a much cleaner transition and projection to the league. Robinson's projection is all sorts of messy and I don't trust it at all. Creating offense in the league is sooooo much different than it is in college, especially for a player that shot good for the first time in his 3d year in college. Also, Huerter even though not an amazing defender, at least tries and gives effort on D.

Huerter projects as an off-ball guard/wing who will be spotting up and running through screens and handoffs and making decisions on the move(he's actually legitimately great at that... his decision-making on the move is arguably better than his shot). He also projects as a somewhat switchable defender. I have no worries about his ability to play in the league... as long as his shot projects, which I have little doubts about.

With Robinson... well you can read my post above about the worries I have about his projection.
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Well I guess if you're gonna say JRob is a 3rd year so we shouldn't consider him then nobody should have drafted CJ McCollum neither cos he was beating up teenagers in this 4th year in college.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well I guess if you're gonna say JRob is a 3rd year so we shouldn't consider him then nobody should have drafted CJ McCollum neither cos he was beating up teenagers in this 4th year in college.
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It's not that he was beating up on teenagers. It's that it's the first time he's doing it and he wasn't doing it his first two years. CJ McCollum had 59% TS% as a freshman. Also, CJ was one of the shiftiest MFers coming out of the draft. Robinson has nowhere close to the wiggle and shiftiness McCollum had.
 
stitches said:
It's not that he was beating up on teenagers. It's that it's the first time he's doing it and he wasn't doing it his first two years. CJ McCollum had 59% TS% as a freshman. Also, CJ was one of the shiftiest MFers coming out of the draft. Robinson has nowhere close to the wiggle and shiftiness McCollum had.
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Ah screw it, now I am hating Jerome Robinson. You guys are making me cynical about picking any of these guys.
 
stitches said:
It's not that he was beating up on teenagers. It's that it's the first time he's doing it and he wasn't doing it his first two years. CJ McCollum had 59% TS% as a freshman. Also, CJ was one of the shiftiest MFers coming out of the draft. Robinson has nowhere close to the wiggle and shiftiness McCollum had.
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This is what The Ringer said about JRob:
  • Fluid athlete who changes directions quickly while staying under control.
  • Tight ball handler with a wide array of moves; he especially likes using hesitations, fakes, and in-out dribbles when he’s going left.
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I dunno.. are they lying? Did they just make all that up?
 
ONE LOVE said:
This is what The Ringer said about JRob:


I dunno.. are they lying? Did they just make all that up?
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He has some skill and he has good handle. otherwise we wouldn't be talking about him as an offense-creator. He's better offensive creator than Huerter for example. The question is - can he be efficient enough to be primary or secondary offensive creator when he's lacking the elite athleticism and wiggle? IMO he needs not just good offensive creation, he needs to be close to elite. Good doesn't do it. Hood was damn near elite as a PnR scorer and on ISOs/postups... and it still wasn't enough. If offensive creation is all he does, he needs to be elite at it, not just good.
 
stitches said:
He has some skill and he has good handle. otherwise we wouldn't be talking about him as an offense-creator. He's better offensive creator than Huerter for example. The question is - can he be efficient enough to be primary or secondary offensive creator when he's lacking the elite athleticism and wiggle? IMO he needs not just good offensive creation, he needs to be close to elite. Good doesn't do it. Hood was damn near elite as a PnR scorer and on ISOs/postups... and it still wasn't enough. If offensive creation is all he does, he needs to be elite at it, not just good.
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I dunno if he needs to be THE GUY who creates offense in our system where DMitch will have the ball is his hand a tonne and Jingle will also have the ball is his hand a tonne, and we're playing European ball where the ball is moving all the time. We do have DMitch if the offense stagnate and he's elite at creating offense.

If you pair JRob with DMitch, DMitch will have the ball in his hand a lot more than JRob, probably 70/30. JRob just needs to be able to knock down open 3's when called upon and take over some ball handling responsibility when needed.

Also at #21, you're not gonna get someone being 'elite' at many things... JRob is sufficiently quick and shifty, has good size for the combo guard position and he can knock down open 3's at 40%+ rate... to me that is more than you can ask for with the #21 pick.
 
I am ready for the draft. People have their favorites and all players have their flaws. I am just hoping the Jazz can get a contributor off the bench who can score and play some defense.
 
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