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Following Potential 2020 draftees

SCS said:
If you're looking for stars then total projects that don't possess a standout NBA skill/trait isn't the place to look.

Also history says there's only 5 all stars on average per draft. Usually most of them go near the top of the draft.

Oh and I'd like to point out that several players who were pegged as "just role players" ended up becoming all stars. Rudy Gobert, Kyle Lowry, Paul Millsap, Pascal Siakam, Domantas Sabonis. Wanna know why? They had standout skills/traits that allowed them to get on the floor for a team in a specific role. And once they had their foot in the door they were able to expand their games.
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Really like your approach to the process. One more advantage of what you propose would be that a player who has one NBA level skill is immediately an asset in hypothetical trade contrary to the promising project. And we lack in those right now after we gutted ourselves with the trade for Conley.
 
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You guys keep bringing up wings that arent gonna get drafted like their being overlooked.. John Petty is a much better prospect than LAmine Diane,Sam Merrill, Nate Hinton, Mason Jones, JAlen Harris, Jessup... I'm sure of it...

That list of guys i just ran thru other than Petty, they arent really that much better than the players at 98,99 and 100 on ESPN's board -- Anthony Lamb, Kristian Doolittle, and Trevelin Queen IMO.
 
SCS said:
If you're looking for stars then total projects that don't possess a standout NBA skill/trait isn't the place to look.

Also history says there's only 5 all stars on average per draft. Usually most of them go near the top of the draft.

Oh and I'd like to point out that several players who were pegged as "just role players" ended up becoming all stars. Rudy Gobert, Kyle Lowry, Paul Millsap, Pascal Siakam, Domantas Sabonis. Wanna know why? They had standout skills/traits that allowed them to get on the floor for a team in a specific role. And once they had their foot in the door they were able to expand their games.
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Who said the guys I'm looking at don't have a bankable NBA skill? Everyone I'm pointing to has prototypical NBA size and multiple NBA-level skills.

The best draft picks the Jazz have made have been high-ceiling prospects, even if they have a low floor. Guys who were drafted in the 20s especially, like Gobert and Kirilenko, were players with a high ceiling and a low floor. They were guys who could become special players if they developed into their best-case scenario, though it took them a few years to get there. Guys like Giannis and Siakam were the same.

Drafting young, under-scouted players with high upside, even if they're physically underdeveloped or polarizing in some way, has been a formula for success

I personally don't see what drafting Devon Dotson is going to do for the Jazz. Mitchell is going to have the ball in his hands, and when he doesn't, likely multiple guys are going to share the ball and initiate. If Dotson plays at all, he's going to have to be a 2nd or 3rd string backup PG, or he's going to have to play off the ball. He's going to be undersized to guard more than one position. I don't see the point in drafting a guard who isn't suited to play next to Donovan. If you want to draft a backup PG, there are several in the 2nd round that can work.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
You guys keep bringing up wings that arent gonna get drafted like their being overlooked.. John Petty is a much better prospect than LAmine Diane,Sam Merrill, Nate Hinton, Mason Jones, JAlen Harris, Jessup... I'm sure of it...

That list of guys i just ran thru other than Petty, they arent really that much better than the players at 98,99 and 100 on ESPN's board -- Anthony Lamb, Kristian Doolittle, and Trevelin Queen IMO.
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Hinton and Jones are a tier better than the other guys.
 
This guy for a 2nd round pick or UDFA? "Nathan Knight William & Mary: 20.7 points, 10.5 rebounds, 1.7 assists, and 1.5 blocks on 52% from the field and 30% from 3 on 3 attempts per game
6’10 forward Nathan Knight might stand as the most accomplished NBA Draft prospect that you probably haven’t heard about. After the forward’s time with William & Mary, he collected enough awards and accolades that his family would probably have to purchase another trophy case to hold them.

Just in his senior year, the CAA (Colonial Athletic Association) named him as their Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, All-Conference First Team, All-Defensive First Team, and the Lou Henson award which is given out to the mid-major Player of the Year. Knight was no stranger to being praised by the CAA as part of the All-Conference First team during the 2018-19 campaign while being on the All-Defensive squads in the two previous seasons.".
 
Catchall said:
Hinton and Jones are a tier better than the other guys.
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what makes you so sure? Mason Jones to me looks like a classic player who's pretty good in college but just doesnt have the juice to make any sort of impact at the NBA level..

To me Mason Jones lacks discipline for his age too, on both sides of the ball, i think he loses focus and disengages at times.... He should be further along... You might go to look at his stats and see 2 seasons but he is a 22 year old..
 
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6.6 rebounds per game this year! He's still skinny but thats why his stock isnt higher... Really has a solid handle, he's a decent passer capable of making some really nice drop-off bounce pass type deals during drives, and of course he hit 45% of his 3's on high volume, and demonstrates the capacity to really heat up..
 
Bol Bol had 16 points 10 rebounds and 6 blocks in his debut yesterday.... Still dont understand why so many teams would pass on him, some twice.
 
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