Look, Tre has a good argument for 3rd best prospect in the draft. I think he's really good. If the Jazz draft him, I'll hope for the best on the things he doesn't project to be good at.
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Look, Tre has a good argument for 3rd best prospect in the draft. I think he's really good. If the Jazz draft him, I'll hope for the best on the things he doesn't project to be good at.
To be an NBA ball handler, I’d say being able to touch inside the paint and get the defense in rotation is just as important and maybe even more important than shooting. It’s what got undervalued with Collier. He’s not as good at finishing, but I think Fears is right there with Harper in terms of getting to the basket. Fears should have been in high school this year….I see why people have him at 5 even if I’m not there yet.
2 more weeks until we know if we get Flagg.
We're also a month out until we know what guys are staying in the draft or going back to college.
I'm bored enough to look at draft stuff, but not super motivated until we know what pick we're going to have and who will actually be in the draft.
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His slow shot mechanics scare me a little. And he shot four jumpshots in that entire highlight video. He is intriguing though.
I’ve been wondering if he should be the second guy off the board. I mean he’s such an elite shot maker. I mean he could low key be the second best player in the draft.
I feel like the Jazz are due for a win in the lottery
I still maintain that Fears and Traore are similar as draft prospects. Fears projects to be a much better shooter and Traore projects to be a much better passer. They both are able to get wherever they want on the court and both have similar defensive concerns. They were both asked to do too much on their respective teams and had inconsistent production as a result. They are also pretty close in age (4 months apart). The differences in production can easily be explained by the differences in leagues.
Also: *gasp* all he can do is shoot the lights out running off screens, really good off the dribble, and shows promise in isolation! And shows some nice ability as a playmaker for others!
The point that his player archetype is volatile is a fine one but the kid is good.
For how closely I've followed Traore, people might think I'm a superfan/homer, but I actually don't like Traore for the Jazz. I think he is similar as a prospect to Collier, but Collier plays with more energy.
I think their outside shooting is not actually that different, it's a question mark and big swing skill for both. I think Fears is a much better scorer inside the arc. Traore has a very low 2FG% which indicates to me that he's shooting a ton of floater/mid range shots. Fears isn't necessarily efficient at the rim, but he does get there at a very high rate and also gets a ton of FT's. Could be a difference in competition, but Fears is pretty special compared to his peers in NCAA where I can't say the same for Traore. Traore might find himself in that situation where he's not threat to score from anywhere.
I think Traore has fallen to far on boards, but I'd sill give a pretty solid advantage to Fears atm.
It's honestly hard to say why Traore's 2FG% is low, because we can't watch the games. My impression from what I can watch is that he takes a lot of non restricted area 2s as a shot that is designed within their offense (if not designed, at least very acceptable). Traore beats his primary defender as good or better than Fear, in my opinion, but he is much more likely to use that advantage to then create for someone else. If you are going to completely ignore the obvious advantage that Troare has as a play maker over Fears, then I can see why you would think there is a solid advantage to Fears.
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What are everyone's thoughts on ranking younger guards like Fears or Traore vs. older, more put together guards like Walter Clayton Jr. or Nique Clifford? I have trouble on how to rack and stack these guards who are clearly on different parts of their development curve. Is it truly better to bet on youth and upside vs. more shown and proven skillsets? I believe that both Clayton Jr. and Clifford could bring needed versatility and skills to the Jazz. I also believe that both are overall better players right now than either Fears or Traore. And they might continue to be better in the future as well.
I would definitely target senior junior etc players with second round picks
Less risk less money but could pay off