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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

There are levels to this stuff. Ace being a little too jovial or saying wild things is not Cam being a dick and having a coach actively campaign against you. Along with the medical stuff.

I think Ace slides and I do think the Wiz/Nets/Pelicans would likely be happy to make a deal unless Wiz love Queen, and Nets and Pels I could see liking Fears... I wonder how far Kon could slide if teams decide he doesn't have enough upside.

I could see the Wiz offering 6 and 18 to move up a spot or two... I think they only have like one other extra pick down the road. Pels I could see the 2026 Indiana pick and 7... Nets have a bunch of picks so would 8, 19 (or one of the picks in the 20s), and a future pick get them where they need to go.

Hopefully Ainge does the thing where he maps out the draft board and can manipulate things if there is a good opportunity.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
You can't trade back much for Kon or Fears. They might both go 6-8.
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It would be great if the Wiz were locked in on Queen. It would be phenomenal if Hornets reach for Khaman.

I just really wish I knew what Philly was thinking. I think the Hornets could be wary of taking Ace with Miller (wing who will operate in the mid range some) and Lamelo (who is already very unserious). I really think Philly/charlotte could go VJ/Tre in some order. I'd be happy to take Ace for ourselves or as a hostage if there are offers we like depending on how things fall out.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
There are levels to this stuff. Ace being a little too jovial or saying wild things is not Cam being a dick and having a coach actively campaign against you. Along with the medical stuff.

I think Ace slides and I do think the Wiz/Nets/Pelicans would likely be happy to make a deal unless Wiz love Queen, and Nets and Pels I could see liking Fears... I wonder how far Kon could slide if teams decide he doesn't have enough upside.

I could see the Wiz offering 6 and 18 to move up a spot or two... I think they only have like one other extra pick down the road. Pels I could see the 2026 Indiana pick and 7... Nets have a bunch of picks so would 8, 19 (or one of the picks in the 20s), and a future pick get them where they need to go.

Hopefully Ainge does the thing where he maps out the draft board and can manipulate things if there is a good opportunity.
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Jazz and Wizards could just swap picks if the Wizards want Ace and the Jazz want Fears. Washington would do that to prevent someone else from trading up with the Jazz for Ace. Jazz can't trade back more than a spot or two and get the next tier of player.
 
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I think the Wizards will try to move up from 18 to somewhere in the late lottery to get Queen.

I just don't see him going in the top 10, he's just too terrible defensively right now and you have to project him becoming an Embiid level shooter to make up for that.
 
Although it sucks we got ****ed out of Flagg or Harper at least we're in that tier for VJ, Bailey and Tre. I can live with any of them - all have their pluses and minuses and I feel there's a drop after 5.

My brain says Bailey and my heart says Tre though I don't think VJ or Bailey will be there at 5.

I also feel like Sorber will not go as high as some think in the draft - he's not very athletic and he isn't a stretch but he's going to be one of those guys who does all the right things for a team to win.
 
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Jazz leaving no stone unturned for the 5th pick. At this point I am really hoping Tre is available but I’m sure that will be the case.
 
Qman said:
Anyone have access to Kevin pelton’s projection for Tre Johnson? I believe it was really negative. Apparently he didn’t shoot well in high school?
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Pelton on Tre Johnson:

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Top 100: No. 6
Stats: No. 30

Consensus: 2.4 WARP

Johnson's volume scoring is the kind of skill set that tends not to fare well in my projections. Usage is his only strength, while Johnson was well below average in terms of rebounding, steals and blocks. The swing skill is just how efficient Johnson can be as a scorer. He faired acceptably at the college level thanks to 40% 3-point shooting but was less effective in EYBL play. Johnson shot just 34% on 3s in the 2023 EYBL campaign.
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Locke brought up Beal as a comparison and I definitely can see that. Tre plays in college very similarly to Beal does in the NBA. But one thing we do have to remember the NBA is not the NCAA. If you look at the player Beal was in college, he was actually a lot more like VJ. It's hard to imagine that now, but Beal wasn't the shooter he was back then and he was much more of an athlete. The NBA is much different from the NCAA and is obviously much more difficult. I've been looking back at previous prospects and it's pretty interesting to see just how much (or how little) players change over time.
 
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